Chris_R

Well that makes them better men than me.

Oh my. That's special. This encapsulates why I never buy newspapers and would lose no sleep if they all went out of business. That's such a shit article.

HALLELUJAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd suggest that long-term, the opposite is the case. OK, short-term "DRESSING ROOM SPLIT" sells a few extra copies, but long-term knowing that the local paper can be trusted to ask the right questions and is on the side of the supporters and is clued up as to the real issues is infinitely more likely to get me to regularly buy a paper.

The press will do just do anything to avoid alienating the manager. Never bite the hand that feeds you etc. It just seems to be accepted that you don't undermine him. Undermine the players, the fans, anyone else. They don't provide your soundbites or interviews. OK, some players do, but alienate one and others will still talk or you can alienate them generically rather than specifically thereby avoiding direct confrontation, a la the recent "split in the dressing room" articles. But no manager is EVER called out over his tactics. Which is a crying shame as plenty of them could do with it, our present incumbent being top of the list. They should be held far more accountable for their actions.

Well ask him and he'll lie. He's already on record as saying he likes front foot, fast paced attacking football. Which is an outright lie. No point asking that again, you'll get the same answer. So you've got to either print that answer or confront him and call him a liar. Unfortunately none of them seem to have the balls to call him a liar over it, even though there's a wealth of stats, figures and observational evidence that prove he's talking out his ring.

It's fucking obvious why they don't do it. They ask him questions that don't directly blame him so that he continues to talk to them. Call a manager useless and he'll stop talking to you. Call his players useless and he'll get angry and disagree with you but continue dialogue. Still, as a fan it's shit. They're not asking the questions that I want them to ask, that NEED to be asked.

I just long for the day that someone addresses the real issue and asks him about his shit, negative tactics. The rest of it is a waste of time and ink. I don't care what he's doing about the language barrier or whether he feels there's too many French players. I care about whether he feels he can bring an attacking style to Newcastle, where we make the opposition worry about us rather than the other way round. Something that has been utterly lacking throughout his entire tenure here to date.

... THIS IS NOT TRUE. We've performed badly as a team for 2 bloody years, since the day Pardew was appointed. Scraping wins through individual brilliance or getting lucky were our only routes to perceived success. But then our luck ran out, Demba Ba ran out, Ben Arfa limped out and Cisse was shunted out (to the right wing). Now the orchestrator of all this needs to be run out. Blaming our perfomances on the team's heads dropping is utter bullshit. It's down to mis-management and our abhorent tactics. Suggesting otherwise is at best being blind to the problems and at worst is an outrageous lie. However I agree we need to get behind the team for the games. That's obvious. But lets not pretend that we can't do that AND try to run Pardew out for spoiling what is an otherwise potentially very good side. Playing under Pardew must be like trying to ignore a turd in a swimming pool whilst everyone tells you to just get on and enjoy your swim. In theory you should be able to get on and do what you're there to do, but you surely can't give it your best and even the most professional amongst us would eventually start to suggest that if the poo isn't removed, they're getting out and finding a different pool.

Bit cuntish of the club. Basically trying to ensure that only club-approved news is printed. Arseholes. Really hate that kind of behaviour. Even if the Edwards article is completely made up, why can't the players or the club just refute it publicly? They'll claim they shouldn't have to respond to every inaccurate news story, and to an extent that's fair, but this is too far the other way. Whether there's a split or not is a matter of opinion, I doubt the club can prove there isn't and I doubt Edwards can prove there is. Maybe they should go with a massive article on how Pardew's negative, boring tactics are abhorent, ineffective and cowardly? Refute that one, NUFC.

This. The surprising thing isn't what they're saying, it's that they're finally saying it at all. The press have been almost as cowardly in their supposed 'journalism' as Pardew has been in his 'tactics'. Both words in inverted commas as their respective attempts have fallen so woefully short of the descriptions as to barely fit within their remit.

Frankly I think it's disgusting that they put out the performance they did on Saturday and as a result they have to do about an hour's work on Monday. I'd certainly have had them in on Sunday. And for a hell of a lot longer than an hour. And Monday. There's so much needs doing and so little time. They work about 10 hours a week ffs, including match days. Tiredness is one thing but they can sure as hell sit round and talk for a while, that shouldn't tire anyone out.

Alan Pardew rewarded

Even the Sunderland away game wasn't a good performance as such, we just defended really well. We still created fuck all for most of the game. Bordeaux home match wasn't that one-sided either. We scored 3, but the balance of overall play wasn't that great.

That's why we lost. Liverpool had no fear of us, knew we couldn't hurt them. We barely had a shot all game, they knew they could attack with impunity. -----------------------------------Cisse - - - - - - - - - ------------------------------------Jonas Santon Haidara Williamson Perch Coloccini Taylor Simpson Debuchy ------------------------------------Elliott

If we stay up, he can do at least 3 places worse next season. Something which I suspect he's more than capable of.

Laughable he gets 27% I expect that number to drop now that Mick has posted the link on here like. I posted it a couple of hours ago fwiw. I can guarantee that the majority of the 27% will be from Wearside.

Incidentally, has Ian posted since yesterday's debacle?

I think any "No" votes can be discounted unless accompanied by an explanation of why accompanies them.

The only votes for no must be mackems or those who've pressed the wrong button.

Unless Pardew is sacked there's only one way it's going to go. Agreed. Agreed.

"We looked disorganised and it's not anyone's individual problem" Could have changed that to 30-point font as well. It's your problem Alan, and you're an individual.

On a serious note though, it could work. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing again and again and expecting a different outcome. However every week we do the same. Something needs to change. I worry who would play wide though. We have no wingers at the club at all.

It does seem like he's lost the dressing room. Completely.

I can't excuse Elliott from blame tbh, I think a better 'keeper might have stopped one or 2. He only made one decent save. Everything else was right at him or in the back of the net. Whole lot of them were dogshit, from top to bottom. And Pardew the worst of the lot.