You're such a card. Who'd would've thought of using an inaccurate stereotype Sky have perpetuated against there own fans?
I'm just joking about that bit really, is a bit true though, most of my mates talk absoulte bollocks as does my dad, my dad thinks Nicky Butt should start for the experience for example. ONly people I hear that talk sense really are on here.
You're taking the piss, aye?
I don't agree with most supporters either. If I had my way i'd have Jonas taken out the back of the training ground and beat with a stick until he learned how to float in a decent cross although i've realised i'm in a minority. I, like you, have also suffered an earbashing at the hands of one of the few Nicky Butt fans still out there (it might've been your Dad. If so tell him he's a c***). Do these experiences mean I'm against fan ownership? No, because I respect the fact that they, like me, have a vested emotional (and if NUST get their way, financial) interest in the club.
I'd much rather disagree with people who I know have put their time and money into this football club over the years rather than a bloated billionaire with no attachment.
Aye, was a slight jest.
I'm not saying I wouldn't have this over Ashley, I just don't think it will work
A) I don't think they'll raise the money.
B) Do any of these people havea clue about running a 300M investment.
C) We'll make Kneejerk and rash decisions and we'll spend whatever money we raise in the first window.
That's fair enough I suppose. They're all valid reasons to be unsure about any potential fan takeover.
I see it this way - if they don't make enough money then there is no harm done so it's not really something to worry too much about. To combat the last two points I personally would be hoping the fans would elect a President ala Barca. When 'fan ownership' is uttered I think a lot of people assume Paul from Row M suddenly is going to be given the day to day running of the club and that's that. In reality I imagine we'd see a Newcastle fan with the knowledge and personal experience, someone like Barry Moat or Graham Wylie, voted in and given a set term running the club.
Obviously i'm not involved with any of this work so it's all speculation on my part but that's personally how I see it working.
From what it sounds like it does infer that members will all have avote on major decisions. I would be happy with this structure if it was basically run like a normal football club where the Chairman basically makes most of the decisions but is answerable to the board.
Personally I don't think it matters whether the Chairman is from Newcastle either in fact I'd prefer if he wasn't, I'd like someone who has already been a chairman or MD before like David Dein (Dreamworld). I think a freh perspective would help.
I can't see the 'vote on every issue' thing being workable in the real world. It takes too long. Maybe for stuff such as kit supplier, sponsors, pie and pint prices etc. but not for transfers and the like.
I suppose we'll not know the full details until Monday, possibly later.
Yeah I know day to day decisions wont be made like that but say manager changes will, I just think itll be kneejerktastic tbh, like I said we'll get through so many managers.
Our high management turnover over the past few years was due to mistakes by the board rather than fan pressure.
Robson - Sacked at the wrong time. Majority of fans wanted him to stay.
Souness - Wrong man from the start, played poor football and ruining a top 6 team. Arguable whether the fans played a part.
Roeder - Wrong man again. Fans liked him and sung his name while protesting against Freddy. Sacked at the right time but it was a surprise to most fans.
Big Sam - Came in during the takeover and despite the poor football got very little abuse. Save for the duo within view of the Sky cameras against Liverpool he seemed to be well liked and his name was still being sung come Stoke.
Keegan - We know what happened there.
The thing with voting for a new manager is that they need to want to come to us. I've no doubt we'll have some who'll want Keegan and some Mourinho but lets be realistic, they're never going to get what they want are they?
Exactly. I just blew my top with some Arsenal fan who claimed he had no sympathy because it was all our own fault, for driving managers out and always demanding Keegan be made manager, and for wanting Shearer to stay in after the summer. I was at Sam's last game at Stoke, and my last memory of him as Newcastle manager is walking down the tunnel right by the toon fans clapping and getting clapped, after a terrible performance.
