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May as well move on, I think I have seen this played out before and we lose with no player at end of it.

Its strange that Sammy etc get a chance and not a supposedly more experienced player - albeit in french 2nd division it must be better that the experience Sammy has and he looks a clever player on and off the ball

Problem is it has only been last few games trying to play a 4-3-3 and even then he decided Cisse was a winger. He only tried it as a last throw of dice because his 4-4-2 with long ball did not work with Ba and Cisse up front - which was not a shock to anyone here. In the 4-3-3 we ultimately have players like Anita, Marveux, Bigi, Cabaye that will thrive and the former two certainly have looked better - again no surprise. However he will then ruin it all by putting Jonas left of a front 3 or making us play rigid even in that formation. I think with decent right Back, Centre Half - Ben Arfa on right and another winger/forward on left we would look more fluid. Allow the midfield to interchange but ensure they know when to fill in and when to attack (If cabaye launches forward, someone needs to sit in and vice versa, if Debuchy runs forward Anita needs to cover)

Yup. See the sad thing is the majority of owners really aren't all that different from the majority of fans in how narrow minded they can be as far as hiring a manager goes. The first reaction when you suggest a change in manager on here is usually, the typical 'who can we get that's better?', which always baffles me. It always seemingly has to be someone everyone has heard about that is a proven success already. I gurantee if people had suggetsed Laudrup, had he not already gone to Swansea, he would likely have been rubbished by most, as having not proven anything anywhere. The priority though should really be to look at the manager's approach and philosophy, and the potential to marry this up with the clubs current assets etc. Although I can't necessarily name them all, I have no doubt there's at least a handful of managers that can come in and make far better use of the players we have, and implement a style of football that is bettersuited to them, than Pardew ever could. It's been quite unacceptable from Pardew really. You need to scout managers as you do players and look for the qualities, you need to have an idea of what you want to achieve and find the appropriate manager for that job. We don't seem to know what manager we want or care what style they have. Our owner/chaircunt need to look at background of managers, how they deal with pressure, their apparent strengths and weaknesses etc - exactly as you were hiring a manager for your company, you would ideally look for someone to progress there department well or just carry out your commands (Chaircunts idea)

I would go and get Martinez the founder of the style and also nab the Swansea chairman

I'm not too sure I agree,Swansea play a very very different game to Martinez/Rodgers. Much more direct, replaced players, more forward thinking. Also If liverpool are struggling with that style, then half a season isn't too bad from where they were under Dalglish. They may not be challenging the top four but they are streets ahead of us at present. Agreed on Mourinho. He took his style and imprinted it instantly on chelsea. However, like you say Pardew has had a long time to try and implement something from the ground up. He's spectacularly failed, we dont seem to have a discernible game plan ever Swansea still play good football with a basic principle of retaining the ball. They just move up the pitch quicker and have more of an edge to them thanks to De Guzman and Michu mainly. He has been able to evolve there game well so far because they already have the foundations to build on. When you have a team that already know how to do the basics well and how to play it's probably helps in tweaking the style which is effectively what Laudrup has done

To be fair, for Laudrup he already had a mentality and style at Swansea to progress and develop. Our style has been broken for years and needed starting from scratch, unfortunately Pards does not know how to set the foundations

Don't think it is brown, they had a colour for different roles also, from casino days I believe

Yip, however his policy has brought us Ba, Cisse, Cabaye, ben Arfa, Tiote, Anita, Santon, Debuchy, Marveux in last 3 seasons. Not bad really. The problem is the mindset that someone needs to be sold to offset this, even if Simpson / Williamson goes we need that squad player. We also need to develop players like Sammy, Tav, Fergie, Abeid, Bigi, Amalfatino, Streete, Campbell, Inman, Dummett to be capable of playing in the team. It's up to the manager to work that one out as it could solve a few problems really. Getting a few of those to being good players to bring in with right mentality, tactical nous, discipline etc would save us a fortune but we need the coaching and management to drill it into them because tactical and discipline seems shocking in all but Bigi - never seen Streete obviously Inman ? The guy was scoring and creating goals for the reserves earlier in the season and didn't even get near the first team.... What has happened to him ? He's over 20 now isn't he ? On loan at Crewe now, tbh he should have been out at 18/19. Sammy, Ferguson, Tav etc could all do with loans at Championship clubs for a few months. Not sent to Scotland or anywhere, we need them getting that experience and confidence in the league below us for a full season with the hope of bringing them into first team the year later or sending out again if not quite ready. We are hopeless at developing players tbh

Oh definitely his through getting ridiculous managers, this time round I would say a mixture of Management and Ownership if we went down. Not bringing in CB and RB in summer was sheer stupidity considering our collapses against Fulham, Spurs etc last season, however Pardew in my opinion has still had chances to win games with good players available and has fluffed it big style

Yip, however his policy has brought us Ba, Cisse, Cabaye, ben Arfa, Tiote, Anita, Santon, Debuchy, Marveux in last 3 seasons. Not bad really. The problem is the mindset that someone needs to be sold to offset this, even if Simpson / Williamson goes we need that squad player. We also need to develop players like Sammy, Tav, Fergie, Abeid, Bigi, Amalfatino, Streete, Campbell, Inman, Dummett to be capable of playing in the team. It's up to the manager to work that one out as it could solve a few problems really. Getting a few of those to being good players to bring in with right mentality, tactical nous, discipline etc would save us a fortune but we need the coaching and management to drill it into them because tactical and discipline seems shocking in all but Bigi - never seen Streete obviously

What we love about each other is his money. He is such a fucking state and she would get smashed to pieces

Shes married to him fuck me hes a mess

Difficult because of young side put out on the field. Hoped to get to 60-65 minutes and then bring on Marveaux to provide magic. Anita and Marveaux started to dictate near the end. Perch injured at HT. Disruptions knocked us out of rhythm. Young players gave their all but shouldn't be representing us. Second yellow was a nothing challenge, criticised player for making a meal of it. Says we gave it our all after the sending off. Bigi and Anita best players. Tavernier better at centre half which is perceived as his best position. Elliot solid. Not enough big players. Thanks fans for support but maintains that the club must maintain Premier League status. "Goutierrez" will be back for Norwich, maybe Cabaye and Taylor. He keeps going on about a little bit of magic to get something. If you want that sign Harry Potter, Dynamo and Paul fucking Daniels you stupid cunt

With all our players back I have no faith in Pardew. I think he will just play long ball to Cisse on his own and totally nullify the effect of having Cabaye, Debuchy in the team. No matter what players we have there is something else totally wrong about the way we play and plan b

I think even the "defenders" were giving him a chance to turn it round after last season. Think those numbers are dwindling. Problem is, people want to be able to defend him and stick with him but he's not exactly giving anything for us to cling on to. Personally I want to see the cunt kicked out now and have done for majority of season because it's been pathetic and same excuses and on top of that the football has been woeful. I could easily back him if I could see what we were trying to do, but it's a total mystery

Watch them replace them adequately in this transfer window. Not with MONg in charge they won't, probably reo coker and cahill in with maybe an over the hill centre half also

We are in no position to mock anyone. Neither are they though to be fair. One of my scum mates was on facebook at end of our game cocky as anything even before they played, unbelievable. I keep pointing out they are only 2 points away from us and not exactly fantastic and may be best to concentrate on their own team, and also offered to get him a ticket for our next european game

What a load of tosh. Especially with Williamson and Shola in that team today

And, to be fair to him MONg at least knows the value of the cup and plays his full strength team and there is rarely a lack of effort. We just don't seem to have anything going for us with this cunt in charge

What the fuck is wrong with Amalfitano. Would also rather we took a chance on a Campbell or Ranger at moment. To be honest Tavernier played better than Williamson and he's the more experienced player. Santon looks like he is going down hill now and Perch is not a Centre Half in a million years

One thing for sure is we need to replace him because we will get relegated, I can't see us getting out of it whatsoever with him in charge

So predictable with his interviews now, just a cunt, just go now man. Don't blame your tools you fucking tool. You deal with it and find a way to win

Every manager we have from now on should be given no longer than 2 year contract and renew after a year. Certainly not 8 years because it's gone to the fuckers head I don't believe that. I just think he's been found out without his key players. I just find it strange how far down hill we have gone since he got that contract. He has definitely been found out and doesn't have any answers. He actually appears totally clueless and oblivious to the whole thing. Sure he's started playing a 4-3-3 but even then he shoe horns a striker to the right in most games. He persists with Shola who has offered nothing all season when starting games and is to slow to play on his own up front, offers no outlet at all. He rearranges the whole back four at half time - Just totally shocked at this part. He played 3 arguably defensive midfielders with Sammy and Obertan coming to narrow at times.

Defeat probably by 2 goals and Williamson playing a part in at least one of them. Both goals preventable