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good first season top 10 finish and intertoto if possible and a clear out of dead wood over the summer great season uefa cup spot fantastic never going to happen finish = cup final/winning a cup what I try not to think about is how good the league has gotten outside the top 3 I would say even the lower teams on their day can put pay to those you expect to cruise to a win, so I think our finishing depends on how well other teams progress this summer/who is taken over and massively invested in

will take a disasterous season in the prem for them to be bayin for blood to be fair due to what he has done he deserves at least that much chance.

this may be totally off point or raised 100 times before but if we get some obsure signings and turn into a totally continental side with little to no english players in there would you be disappointment? I dont really mind as the league has been going this way for some time but i do feel a little proud that we do manage to field some english or uk players week in week out. Wouldn't be disappointed if they improve the team. We've got some good british players at the club who will be here next season. I think Given, Taylor, Milner, Parker, Butt, Duff and Owen may well stay here. A couple of them haven't performed this season but i think Allardyce can get them playing again. At the end of the day its not the player in the shirt who is the important thing, its the badge. I'd actually we rather signed a few obscure cheap players who improve the team, than pay £8m for an overpriced british player who is no better or not as good in some cases. true which is why i was wary of of mentioning it here many debates have started over the ammount of foreign players in leagues but I do agree with your sentiment we want success and we want it how it happens with or without english players in the side

this may be totally off point or raised 100 times before but if we get some obsure signings and turn into a totally continental side with little to no english players in there would you be disappointment? I dont really mind as the league has been going this way for some time but i do feel a little proud that we do manage to field some english or uk players week in week out.

I would say as a bench mark I would like to aim for higher than boro (lost that 10 pund bet btw to the boro fan) and the mackems. I think that would lead my thinking towards a top 10 finish, if the right players come in and sam can get them to gell maybe squeeze a uefa place or intertoto, but a top half finish would not disappoint me. If he can "do a bolton" to coin a phrase and keep building season to season no mega summer over hauls which we seem to always be talking about and just tweak or replace players we loose I can see us building into something big, I wanna give him a few seasons I'm hoping by his contract end he will have us back into pushing the top 5 and getting results against the bigger "we are automatically going to loose these ones" teams.

I agree I recon he was the wise old fella we needed to properly steady the ship and then after a while we start (as well as the players) how long can he go on, can he cope with the ship rocking. SA is still relatively young and hungry wanting success, wont put my neck on the line as far as you have HTT but would like to see us getting "closer" to success than we have in a long while.

I have not felt this good sinse Robson came to take us out of the dark ages, simple man with an element of conviction in everything he says, all the hangers on will be shitting themselves now cause big sam is a do'er rather that what i think the last two plonkers were and that was all talk no substance.

well right now we arent going to attract a premiership proven manager better than SA I mean come on if we aim for a uefa cup spot the next couple of season would you not be happy baring in mind under the rat we would have been facing possible relegation fears or below mid table mediocre football. All I'm trying to say is I want to see us in the CL as much as anyone but sinse we are never going to make this massive leap in a short period of time and with alot of teams following foreign investment becomming stronger we all need to realise that while the likes of the unt's and chelseas are in this league we along with 8 other sides are aiming for 5th down. Once we build oursellves back up, constant investment is made with the young en's, scouting, coaching and player spending and we are still sitting there stagnating thats when i will be screaming get us a new manager that can take us to the next level right now we arent even at an exceptable level so yes SA is perfect for the toon right now

some great points but you are living on past glorys now if we had of found a new manager before robson lost the plot then yes season in season out we should have been in europe but times have changed we have had a disasterous couple of seasons due to souness, injuries and the rat. We now need rebuilding a club who have been in the CL before doesnt give us the right to be in it yr in yr out. SA would and should bring us back down to earth make us build season to season and hopefully not waste a fortune. Yes be ambition but please get your head out the clouds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

adding on from that every manager has to start somewhere you cannot tell me that every sucessful manager has been an instant hit from when they got their badges, so with SA I could see us progressing and he could all prove us wrong and make us into trophy winners.

Righto, winning the league cup with Nufc is bigger than winning the CL with Real. No wonder our fans are such a laughing stock coming out with shite like this, we're a plodding mid-table prem side in the far north that's won nowt for 50 years. The sooner people wake up and realise this instead of believing we are one of the top sides in Europe is the day the club settles down on an even keel and starts to move forward. Where did he say that? I think his point is that we are an unpolished gem, and anyone who won something for us would rightly take ridiculous acclaim. Well why not take over at Gateshead? That'd be an even bigger achievement. Excuse the sarcasm, but can anyone think of an example of a manager, who has the option of either staying at or joining a bigger club, deciding to join a smaller one because it's more of a challenge? It doesn't happen. So we accept mediocrity forever, or do we, as a club, try to get someone better? its a progression thing it wont happen over night, in an ideal world the next manager will take us to another level and stabilise it all. After all that once we are looking like a good option then you can think about attracting class to the club, right now like many have admitted we wont be pulling in world cup winning managers any time soon with the state we are in. It isnt being negative trying to find a manager that will improve the team but possibly wont be good enough to push us into title contenders in an ideal world they would but as we all know we arent living in fairy land .

both provide strength and depth to the squad also add an element of experience to help on the younger players oh an viduka is free, all good enough reasons for me.

on a personal note i have a tenner bet with a boro fan that we will end above them so I hope we do win and win well but knowing us ...........

I know this is your wish list and in a way i share a small ammount of hope that raneri will throw his hat into the pile. but the woodgate boat has sailed he has signed to boro we are never going to get him now and when his contract is over he will be too old. If all comes down to the manager that comes in but it is totally obvious we are short on experience at the back as well as strength wel fuck it every skill needed to make a defence so thats a priority. I would like to see someone come in and motivate the players we have to playing well as if we dont we literrally have such a small squad and not an endless pit of money we cannot afford a total overhaul. The players we would all like to see the back of will not sell for much and the replacements we are all pining for will cost us way more so we need to have a game plan here. Whoever comes in i hope they have a strong will to stop FS doing the same old trophy signing.

Its not like we ain't given roeder a chance I mean he has had a few transfer windows, hours of time with the same players on match days and in the training ground. Had a small advantage in the sense that he has seen some of the young ones more than most mangers due to him being in the academy first. An yet time and time again he has failed. Even if owen had of been fit and we give the team 10 more points on the board it still isnt good enough or where we want to be. With Sam I feel I have hope he would at least make the right choices in a tough spot the ability to grind out results, was why I've always hated bolton but it would be what I would love about us annoy and frustrate teams and grinding out a result.

"tada look who we got" picture on front of the rat being stepped on by super sam

some of the games this season have been shocking due to the lack of trying by the players, they are all on a fortune the place is always jam packed shouting them on and they still can give us nothing, booing is maybe a little too far but it certainly isn't uncalled for.

I know the club likes putting the nail in most rumours coffins but what if the club believe that any denial would not stop speculation as he is now available and we have wanted him before. I just wish the season was over and we knew where we stood, obviously a season with the rat would be disasterous to most on here me included but if it is going to happen we need to stop living in the clouds.

If it meant his removal and a much better manager coming in and with it a change in fortunes (for the better), yes, I'd take it. Wouldn't root for it of course. with this being a dead season I can see why people are saying yea kill the rat off all together but what if looseing doesn't make the lardy one move off him chair to weild the axe and we are stuck with him. I for one would rather not aim for a low prem points score to add to a disappointing season and go off on a high as big as a high as we can hope for ok more like a lil jump. If FFS really wants SA then he will get him regardless of these two last games .

well he has to come good for once doesn't he? for the love all god we all hope so.

or if he finds his form again then he comes back to us a better player, or they are that impressed that they want to keep him and bang in a 4+ million bid or a swap deal, think positive man!

I've spent that long praying we get him that I can see FFS giving Rodent a renewed contract extention and handing him our last 10-15 mill to spend this summer. Or maybe I've just had a really bad day at work.

this. I really think its too early to too tell about how well Martins will do, he still needs time to settle, needs time to work in a striking pair week in week out thats the same then we judge. I think Bent is excellent and wish we had of gotten him in the summer but in a way glad we didn't if the reported 14 mill bid didn't work then getting him in the summer for between 8-10 would be champion but don't want to let Martins go. How about letting Owen go the older striker and getting the younger pair working week in week out.

I can't agree - I think the four players I mentioned are living off reputation rather than talent. - Duff had two or three good seasons three years ago - Parker one good season four years ago (and was a diamond amongst dross last year, thanks to our s**** play necessitating a crunching tackler in midfield, his only attribute) - Emre (who I quite like when he's "on") is astonishingly inconsistent, a homer and a soft touch - Dyer is easy on the eye but contributes nothing The same could be said about Speed, Anelka, Djorkaeff and Campo before joining Bolton, a good manager can get the best out of any player on his books. just adding on from that to "have it" as you put it means that there is talent there to get the best from if you were talking about players that have never had it then I think your right no manger will help.

close James but looks like its pool that go through