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Dyer did a lot more for the club than N'Zogbia has tbf. People write off the good parts but he was a far better young player than any of the kids we have now. picked up massive pay cheques in the end with no end product and will mostly be remember for throwing away armbands and fighting. A young prospect under robson he was great value never in a million years

didnt spend enough time here really we got our money back and then sum dunno how like bareing in mind he was knackered when we flogged him

Oh no he didn't. You'll struggle to find many better individual performances than Tinos against West Ham in 96 like. Not my favourite player but credit where its due. No I meant oh no he didn't, as in oh no he didn't nominate him, as Tino's performances were few and far between for my liking. Was that the 4-0 win when he scored that lovely chip over Les Sealey? the soul reason for not giving him a mention was just the fact I can't remember how much the transfer fee was beacause he was like a world wind in one min few seasons under his belt went off chasing glory and faded away

dunno if this has been mentioned but has Alan Smith turned into our new " luque" most unliked/debated player

also want to say Faustino Asprilla due to some incredible performances but can't remember his fee so maybe not

Temuri Ketsbaia thats him got to be a good shout due to the fact we got him for nothing he did ok for us and we sold him on for nearly a million and how often do we ever sell players on for a profit

how much we pay for ketsbia i really miss that baldy

guess Given is another then 10yrs service to the club and been a key player, you just have to look at how much man u have shelled out on trying to find a good keeper option how badly you miss a good keeper

Would be about my response, but its funny how Bolton were looking at Souness while poor Roeder has got the worst job going in the Championship. Seems a bit unfair. I suppose looking at their full CV means souey still carries some weight where as roeder doesnt really have any "past glories" to go on about

both would go on about injuries but the roedent would spend a hell of a lot less money for similar performance

everytime I've spoken to Shola its all toon toon toon he lives and breaths the town and the club. I wouldnt say it to his face but he should be given a fresh start in another team to try and be a fan favourite rather than a bench warmer.

wahey is like fuck yea woo is like lil flag out not so arsed

This isn't Inter Milan or Lazio you know. This is just a dressed up pub side and anyone who can kick a ball is welcome. dont forget positively seeking out players that have brittle bone syndrome but demand over 60 grand a week

I still dont know except the bungs thing hanging over him how the hell a muppet like mclaren got the job over him. Hopefully if it all goes to plan he will see out his full contract and if he does leave do the one thing that bob didnt get right and leave us at the right stage to be taken onwards by someone and not demolished and built back up again

I often think how much of affect having the owner and chairman both having no footballing background if thats good for sams tenure or not. Those with a footballing knowledge may see that Sam needs a transitional season or so due to needing to over hall and back him 100% as long as we dont seem to be going backwards and in that sense its so far so good. Or it may be a bad thing as in they go off the will of the masses and a stuttering season may get them itchy fingers but we will be back to square one as if we dont get a good base then most good managers or what we all seem to crave "top class" will only come for the money as will the players and I fear we will be completing just another cycle

7 GAMES MAN, 7 GAMES. Btw I have said time and time again our football hasn't been the best and that our performances have been poor so there is no blind eye or straw clutching from me. Just realism that a new team can't turn it on from the off and most certainly not after a few games. What are you dribbling on about, he bought flair players at Bolton and some very high profile ones too yet you claim he won't do the same for us? And the reason Bolton can't fill their stadium is because they are a shitty small town club with shitty fans in the same way Blackburn, Boro, Wigan and even Reading can't fill theirs either, not because the football is shite or even because ticket prices are sky high. Allardyce changed his way of thinking every season at Bolton fwiw, hence them improving every season. Again to suggest he won't at Newcastle is reactionary shite. Buying Anelka, which you conveniently ignore, was a bold and progressive move on Big Sam's behalf. Did you see some of their football last season? Bolton 2-0 Liverpool Newcastle 1-2 Bolton (they tore us to pieces in the second half) Bolton 3-1 Arsenal Bolton 4-0 West Ham Bolton 3-2 Portsmouth Arsenal 1-1 Bolton Wigan 1-3 Bolton Chelsea 2-2 Bolton Impressive wins and performances that suggest they were more than a long ball team full of grafters. teams don't pick up them kind of wins or feature in those kind of high scoring games if all they can do is huff and puff. And only now we can how much of a linch pin SA was at Bolton same players alot of the same backroom staff a manager that had plenty of time to see how it works and to learn and improve on sam's techniques and the club are like a big pile of stinking shit from front to back at the moment Anelka with his general class being one of the only few exceptions. Giving Sam time just like we did wore bob is the only way to see a true picture of the guys class or middle of the roadness

I think what makes me feel good more than the last two ( I know I could pick a long list) but I really dont look at any team and fear getting a hammering off anyone, yes we will loose games but with souey and rodent I feared a scoreline of 5/6 we were that unorganised/unmotivated/talented in some area's think we need to poll if people what ugly football with regular good results or sharpe entertaining football and being alot more unpredictable

that has always come to mind when we keep seeing own get injured now I always think back to the "good old days" germany result, goal against the argies owen putting 3-4 past us every time we faced pool. He does seem a shodow now of what I remember like most expect a prime to be maybe 24-28 or 26-30 owen's was 18-22

prefer Bellamy getting the ball and running into Taylor who does a perfectly timed tackle, Bellamy loosing his rag pushing him and being sent off or ala jenas getting the ball clear on open goal and shooting wide

lets hope that IF we dont win there will be at least some positives to take from the game unlike the sucker punch most have gotten from the Derby defeat. I personally feel positive we can beat them home soil, some back from injury and SA not wanting to repeat what happened on monday night is enough motivation needed as far as I'm concerned.

I dunno where the old thread is about season expectations but it would be interesting to see the people that put top 5/top 6 here we come against the pople aiming for a top half/top 8 finish. I for one predicted a top 8 finish and would be satisfied with a top 10 finish personally the league is very good at the moment every team are strengthened and as much as I hate to loose as was mentioned before "lesser" teams have won against the bigger clubs i.e villa beating chelski. We have to get over this and if we were to win comfortably against westham would most of this doom talk end? I think so

I think the toon is like a rollercoaster, one week we are talking about footballing legends in the making and the next week we are talking about wanting to rip the badge from their chests and send them packing back to the play ground part time clubs. One loss does not = one season was the performance poor? most certainly was the manager having an off day? possibly was the home side playing like they wanted it more? probably this does not mean we can wash our hands of the club as I know most on here will still be putting there two penneth worth in game in game out for the hole season. I've always thought the biggest test to SA tenure is not the big wins or the massive results it will be when we go on a 3-4 game run of losses/scrapes and see how he copes thats the making of a good manager the manager that can see past this week or this month and work on an overall view of how things are.

Yeh, thats what i think and i dont like it, i cant beleive we finally have the headache of keepind 3 maybe 4 "immense" CB happy. (i use the term immense in light of what we have had in the past) I just think Cacapa wont ant to stay, i think Taylor is dead cert to start. In fairness though we are trying to build a side to handle player injuries and resting over worked players before they break down, regardless if he does turn into a back up as many said I would rather be in a position as a manager to make these choices (or feel easier resting a player) than think shit what kids can we throw into the mix which can potentially harm their development.

i wish he would just go, replace him and then forget he was here, if he does well else where many will say it was the fresh start he needed, if he does badly it will be a fantastic "get the shit out" clear out move by sam we cant loose to be fair!

anything going tits up would usually be taken up by creditors so things would have to stand you would probably just owe the money to some bugger else.