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Given what he has available, i thought he set the team up pretty well tbh.

I can't imagine we could sell him to anyone, probs best idea is to loan him out for a season to any French team who would be willing/desperate.

I thought he looked like he was running through treacle last night and could easily understand why he hadn't played in the previous 2 games.

If we want to be more effective as an attacking threat in the home leg i'd leave Haidara at LB and play Santon at RB. Instruct them to get some crosses in.

Have we had a shot on goal? We look clueless in attack tbh. But pretty good at the back so far.

Obertan has been awful. Not overly impressed by Marveaux either.

Probably a couple of hairline fractures.

Surely someone is going to find this irresitable...

AC's actually standing

Not sure you can fake broken bones so i don't doubt he has them. The article also says he's expected back next week in Newcastle. The problem is he won't be available for selection for a while.

I'm curious what Manure tactical reshuffle you saw and what effect did you see it make on the game. I was also 'only watching it' and thought the first thing he should have done would be to take RVP off who wasn't having a day to remember, bring Rooney on immediatley for his running, energy and enthusiam (and of course skill) and push Welbeck further foward to see if he could pick up long diagonal balls. Real still had to score and maybe they'd leave spaces. It didn't happen though, in fact i didn't see much different about Manure, certainly didn't become more compact which i thought was odd. But still, what changes did you see? Genuinely curious. Because at the moment i'm wondering if you watched the game tbh.

Thought Marveaux's corners were alright tbh.

Cisse is good either ghosting into areas or getting early balls. Right now we're not really getting round the back of teams so he can ghost in and we're not playing the ball early enough. He's getting a little anxious and he's straying offside too often. I do think you can see a pattern emerging between him and Moussa though. We are starting to play it into Cisse's feet (with his back to goal) and he's laying it off to Moussa and then spinning into space while Moussa drives forward with the ball. I think with Gouf and HBA making anitipatory runs off that move will give us a good attacking outlet.

Pretty much my feelings on the subject too. Don't get me wrong i'd rather have Coloccini in the side, but there's a silver lining here. Don't think Colo would have fluffed his lines like MYM did for the Swansea goal.

Obviously i was thinking that Marv could have come on after 70 mins or so but i could also see that Debuchy was providing a genuine threat down the right and Jonas would've been more likely to notice that and cover for him than Marv would so then it came down to who would Marv replace? Maybe Tiote with Mous dropping back along side Cabaye, again may not have changed the game much. Gouf off and Marv on the left, not sure about that either. Take off a defender? Wouldn't have done that. Hard to really put the loss down to Pardew. They are a very decent team with a very good ethos and a good manager. Despite this we were well in the game and if we had won it, i don't think Swansea could have complained too much. As it was, MYM wasn't a very able deputy for Colo and once again, Santon didn't look all that handy at defending. Me and and everyone else were happy to see those 2 starting though i'm sure. So, today was just one of those days. We deserved a point at least, came away with nothing. Ouch. Now we should go and take at the frustration of that on Anzhi.

Ibrahim Ba >> Rodman wannabe.

Anyone else think a bid for Weimann might be worth it? He's always looked quick and capable to me. Young and i think his contract expires in the Summer od 2014.

Dean Holdsworth.

At 95kg he would be a heavyweight surely. Unless you think that a switch from football training to boxing training would mean he'd lose weight....

I don't think Dembele is half as good as Modric was, they've also been short on Striker options. New manager, trying to mould new players into a new system, plenty to prove, i'd say 4th would be a great finish.

Still think he'll be on the bench unless there is a risk of re-injury.

Do you think he's a significant upgrade on Goufran?

My only point was that they shouldnt be allowed to do it. Didnt expect a hormonal Watford fan taking it personally Petty.

Thats another thing, have no idea who Ipswich have brought in but i am willing to bet they havent shipped over a load that normally wouldnt go there other than for a club partnership like Udinese. Seven or whatever from one club is a pisstake. Why? If it isn't against league rules then why? It is against PL rules, seems like cheating to get into a league with a squad that couldnt qualify to play in it imo. What happens if they get up? Always said there should be a sensible cap on loans, being able to field a side of them while other clubs have to spend money on their team surely isnt right? Surely the relevant point is that it's not against the rules of they league they're playing in. You seem to be indicating that a 'morality' should be adhered to, one that stretches beyond the principles of the competition they're in. My point is it shouldnt be allowed in any league, the fact that a club is allowed to do it is the pisstake like i said from the start. And the fact that foreign loans count as transfers shows what a farce the rule is. Perhaps there's a bigger picture here. Money is so unfairly distributed throughout the leagues and IIRC there was some recent ruling whereby Championship (and lower) clubs will make even less from selling their young developing 'stars' to Prem clubs that there becomes a neccessity for lower league clubs to stretch credibility just to compete (in the absence of a sugar daddy). I would think there's far bigger moral issues to do with the how the money football generates is spread than whether Watford sign several players from another club. A fairer system would negate the need for such measures.

Has Williamson cost us as many goals as Colo this season (in your opinion)?