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MYM suffered from serious indecision. That's terrible in any position but at CB it's fatal. A lot of his indecision though was down to having no faith in Colo to do his bit. So MYM didn't know whether to stick or twist half the time. Hope he learns from this and just does what he ought to do and if his partner f**ks up then he can see if the manager has the balls to haul him off instead.

He's not an awful footballer by any stretch but he has yet to get his head around the concept of what a fullback does.

Saying that though, Lukaku had the ball in the net about 4 times in that first half Aye, the linesman was our best player for the 1st 40 minutes!!!!!

gimp clarified what he meant in the next f***ing post Everton took their foot off the gas, our passing was still all over the place. we got two flukey goals. Good spin tho brett. Cabaye's goal was a fluke? yep I won't be replying to you no longer. Clueless! It was a good hit, great strike but it was exactly great team work that created it. So because no team work is involved a goal is flukey? I'm still baffled by this observation tbh. Wtf does it matter? We lost and put in a terrible 1st half performance and we only showed up when the game looked over as a contest. Cabaye scored from outside the area. Do f**king do whoopee.

Did you watch the game? this is flat out not true. He lost it once or twice but more times than he lost it he got round the outside of Coleman and the one time he switched with Sissoko to go central he beat his man and had a decent shot. Pardew taking him off could be a number of things: he got mouthy at halftime and questioned tactics?, he was injured?, or pardew was annoyed with his selfishness and/or lack of work ethic. He was the only player trying to make something happen for us in that first half. The fact it's been 2 years running now that Pardew has refused to play him in his usual position because he's scared of Baines really annoys me. For 1, once baines was on a yellow card Ben Arfa should have been switched immediately to try and get him sent off by taking him on. Secondly if he was so scared of what Baines would do going forward surely him having Ben Arfa behind him would have meant he couldn't attack as much anyway. It's amazing how different Pardew views things though, he's far more concerned with attempting to stop other players, rather than letting the opposition worry about us, which would actually help stop opponents, as you said with regards to Baines and Ben Arfa. It honestly baffles me how somebody can be so negative all the time despite seeing very little in terms of positive results. Well, tbf, good players do both. Our lot are not doing either at the moment which is a real problem.

It's utterly bizarre when you remember that 1st half performance that on top of scoring 2 goals, we hit the post and Remy narrowly missed. We have a lot of work to do to stay out of the bottom six but Everton have a lot of work to do to be in the top six come May.

Why can't he see that having a system where you have a limited manager who has little or no say in who the players the club buys is not working? I do believe that if Pardew could choose the players the club buys we wouldn't be this sh*te. We'd still be sh*te but not THIS sh*te.

Thought he wasn't really in the game while it mattered. Their CBs had our lobs covered all evening. I can see the possibility of him and Gouf being an ok partnership. We don't have the players for a midfield 4 behind them though.

So you disagree with gimp that it's a fluke then agree with every other single football fan with an ounce of intelligence that is was a great goal out if the blue which dragged us back in to the game. As long as disagree with Gimp's fluke analysis I'm cool with that. you're putting words in my mouth. I think that Gimp was saying exactly that. That the goal itself was fluke in terms of it coming from absolutely nothing. I could be wrong like. Holla at me gimp. It wasn't a worked opening in the same way that Cisse's 2nd against Chelsea a couple of years ago wasn't. Just a great and unexpected strike.

We are realy quite poor in the transition from attack to defence. Maybe that's why Pardew isn't an advocate of us flying forward. Perhaps he's worried that we don't get back into position quickly enough when we lose the ball. Well, that's true, we don't! Must be incredibly frustrating for the manager, coaches and players that we can't get these things right. They are fundamentals of the game.

I think he lacks confidence in the players. I think they realise this and they lose a bit self belief as well. That makes him lose even more confidence in them and it just starts becoming a negative cycle.

Scraping round for crumbs, we have conceded 5 and 6 in recent seasons with second half showings as bad as the first. At least we avoided that level of embarrassment. Martinez must be livid tbh. Because the game should have ended exactly like that.

It's a game that can't be won man. Does something wrong? Blamed and well deserved. Does anything right? Should have been doing it anyway, no credit. And anyone who thinks I'm misrepresenting the no-win fantasy world they live in, where the minimum acceptable criteria for a manager is "gets everything right all the time", please, provide a comprehensive list of things you would actually give pardew credit for. And I don't even like the f***er - although to some I'm sure if I'm not actively trying to set him on fire I must want to lick his hoop - I'm just tired of the ridiculous blindness on display sometimes. I love the I don't even like him disclaimer while defending him. Saying that there are some on here who would rather chew off their own dicks than say he got something right - and create unwinnable situations so that that can never happen - is not defending him. On this one, you don't know what you're talking about. Just leave it.

Oddly enough, i could still see the logic of starting him against Frazer Campbell.

The battered wives club have already covered their ears, mate.

If only sportsmen could be judged on what they said.

The main problem was Pardew, if you can't see it now then you never will. I'm sure this is wind up

He can't drill a team to play 4-3-3 either. The spaces between our midfield 3 was incredible. You could get a ferry through.

Has he not changed the second half round? I forgot he only gets the blame for s***. Never credit for the smallest of positives. I'm telling you now, and i'm sure there's others on here who've also played competitive sports. When you feel you've got nothing left to lose it's so much easier to play. The ones who succeed though are the ones who have the bottle to take that attitude into the START of a contest.

Unbelievable isn't it?

Pardew won't learn anything from this though. Nothing. He'll never have the guts to compete properly in a match like this from the off.

Everton are being totally robbed here! Even if it's just goal difference

He hardly ever cuts out a cross. He's like a quarter of the defender Enrique was.

He must injured. It would be utter and complete stupidity to take him off.

What really pisses me off is this 'having a go' when the match is as good as over. Courage is when you have a go when you've something to ffs.