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I'd rather have Big Ron back as manager than Curbishley.

Villa fans don't want Curbishley now, let alone when he took over. Talk about regressing to 2006.

Gerard Houllier. Meh. Infinitely better than Curbishley, and hopefully he'd be working with KM in some capacity. At least we'd have actual European scouts. The entire process has been tainted from the start by that cunt's decision to walk out, taking the five most senior football members of staff with him, four days before the start of the season. Regardless of what he did for us, it was always going to be nigh on impossible to salvage something in those circumstances.

I thought that ^^ was very funny. Fair play to him. He's a dodgy fecker but he's one of the few "characters" in the game these days.

I'll be honest with you. I stopped taking anything you said seriously after i read a comment you made in regards to Catmag's kid. That's when i finally found out you was a WUM that had no intention to talk football or hold a civilized conversation. Oh dear, don't say things like "you was" and then lecture people on holding a civilised conversation. Ok Mr 'we're on top of you after 3 games'. I'll take your advice. The difference is, I didn't come on here and start lecturing people about your team. You were the one doing that. I hadn't given you lot a second thought until then. Like I said, if you are going to tell people how to play football and call people "anti football", you might want to stop and think about the wider picture. Incidentally, feel free to respond to my points about the army of Spurs fans traversing the internet telling everyone who will listen how great and "pure" they are.

I have to say, I think he's a decent player, but I really, really do not like Barton as a person (for the easy to guess reasons, but then again, who does). Having said that, I was really impressed with him for keeping his cool yesterday, having seen the way Wolves clearly targeted him and tried to get him to lose it. Fair play.

I'll be honest with you. I stopped taking anything you said seriously after i read a comment you made in regards to Catmag's kid. That's when i finally found out you was a WUM that had no intention to talk football or hold a civilized conversation. Oh dear, don't say things like "you was" and then lecture people on holding a civilised conversation.

God, are you still going on? Your horrible long team side lost at home to Wigan yesterday, yet here you are playing the 'holier than thou' card and preaching to me. Why on earth would you think I, or indeed the rest of the entire world, would give a s*** about Spurs tedious rambling on about their great football? If you want to preach about the quality of your play, at least have something worth crowing about in living memory as testimony to it - a bit like Arsenal down the road, for example. Spurs problem is - and has been for years - that they are the incarnation of "all fart, no s***". I'm not a latin scholar, so is that what "audere est facere" means? What you mean like last season? the fact is we're the only team outside the sky 4 that have qualified for the champions league and we're the only team outside the sky 4 that have won a domestic trophy in recent history (you had 2 chances to do the same and failed btw). Btw I commented about your teams performance today. You brought us up and i replied. Yes we played shite yesterday...it happens. This is a thread dedicated to discussing games that took place on the day so please stop taking it so personally. I'm not taking it personally with you, KD, I am getting annoyed by the proliferation of Spurs fans who seem to roam the internet - they are on, quite literally, every single football forum I lurk on - telling everyone else how they play great football, they're the way forward, everyone else's brand of football is shite etc etc. Fuck Arpa, fuck the US military and fuck Berners-Lee and CERN, the web was invented for Spurs fans to be telling everyone else how lucky we are to have them. I might not even disagree with you on the way we play, I just disagree with your appointing of yourself as some arbiter of football taste. And, having seen the way Spurs are quite happy to lump it to Crouch when they've run out of ideas, it seems grossly hypocritical. You might have seen on this forum me moaning about the way we played at home under MON. You could take that and assume I hated the way we played full stop, but that would be wrong, we were excellent to watch away from home on a regular basis, and if you check our away results the last couple of years, you will see we were rewarded for it. What I don't get is what, having lost our manager just before the start of the season, you think should have changed? I also wonder whether you had the same opinion on the first day of the season when we took West Ham apart, playing some really excellent football? Yes, you won the league cup (not as impressive as Pompey with their FA Cup, mind), and I'm not surprised we've had the first outing of "we qualified for the Champions League" here) but my point is that if you're going to traverse the internet with the rest of the Spurs army of keyboard warriors telling us how lucky we are to have you, you might want to consider that there is a team down the road from you in a much more established place to do that, having won real trophies playing good football, yet I have never - ever - seen Arsenal fans finding it necessary to act Charlie Big Bollocks with other supporters. Why is that? Nobody likes a braggard, especially one who is doing so without anything to actually back it up.

I was in the Holte End the day that Ronnie Rosenthal skied it over the bar in front of us, and I'll never forget the reaction to that. It was that horrible moment of sinking feeling in the stomach as you realise you're about to concede, followed by an instinctive dropping of the shoulders and head, then realising that he's missed, then there's a period of what is actually about 0.5 second, but honestly feels like 50 seconds, when time stops, and you realise that, actually, he's skied it. Having said that, Tevez today was worse.

God, are you still going on? Your horrible long team side lost at home to Wigan yesterday, yet here you are playing the 'holier than thou' card and preaching to me. Why on earth would you think I, or indeed the rest of the entire world, would give a shit about Spurs tedious rambling on about their great football? If you want to preach about the quality of your play, at least have something worth crowing about in living memory as testimony to it - a bit like Arsenal down the road, for example. Spurs problem is - and has been for years - that they are the incarnation of "all fart, no shit". I'm not a latin scholar, so is that what "audere est facere" means? Incidentally, I can't help but notice that we - with our anti-football, lack of a manager (having had him walk out at the worst possible time), transfer policy in disarray, and even having lost 6-0 last week - are currently fourth, whilst you, with your channeling of the spirit of Brazil 1970 (and Cambridge United 1991 when it isn't going your way down "the Lane") seem to be 11th. God only knows how big the gap will be if we actually get ourselves a decent manager.

I don't know if you've noticed, we're in a bit of trouble at the moment, and having to take whatever we can whilst we're without a manager. What kind of tactics did you adopt in managing to lose at home to Wigan Athletic? We adopted the right tactics but played like morons and deservedly lost. You lot used the same damn tactics last season too tbh. Oh, that's a shame, did you resort to that lumping it long to Crouchy stuff again? I woudn't fancy watching that. Mind you, maybe I'm just tetchy about it, as I actually go to the games, which would make it even more annoying for me, rather than just flouncing around the internet, preaching on football purity whilst ignoring the predictable long ball guff my own team falls back on a bit too much. Incidentally, if you think it is a conscious tactic to cede the lion share of possession at home to Everton, you're insane. As you are if you think there should have been some gigantic change of style since MON flounced off. This is still O'Neill's team. I'm sure that, were we Spurs, we'd have turned into Brazil 1970 by now, but hey ho.

I don't know if you've noticed, we're in a bit of trouble at the moment, and having to take whatever we can whilst we're without a manager. What kind of tactics did you adopt in managing to lose at home to Wigan Athletic?

Heard KM on the radio on the way back from the match today. Sounded very much like he's ruling himself out. Exciting match today. Gave Everton way too much of the ball, but they didn't muster up many attempts on goal. I like the way Moyes gets his teams working, though. I fancy them to have a very good season. I can't help observe that, but for all the "they're fucked" nonsense in the media, and despite our iffy start to the season, we seem to be fourth this evening. Only three games in, but i think it should possibly put some of the media histrionics in context.

agreed, but also, tbf he IS on newcastle united forum literally days after newcastle united batter the team he supports. He kind of brought it on himself even being here really! I've been here for ages, I've heard it all before. I did hide for a week, mind.

I'm not worried so much as angry, to be honest, Skeletor. I'm angry that O'Neill could not have picked a worse time to leave, and I suspect he knew that. That leaves a bitter taste. I've no idea who will get it. I'd like them to go after Jol, given the choice. I said after the West Ham game - when, and I know West Ham are shite, we played better football than we have at home for two years, that it looked like the shackles had been taken off. I want someone who will play like that, but with some tactical nous. Kevin Mac has shown in the last two games that whilst he's a decent coach, he isn't a manager. You played well against us, but really, Petrov and Ireland in a midfield two? That's asking for it. It is a nightmare scenario changing manager at this point, it really is that difficult, but the chairman hasn't let us down in the last four years, and I'm happy to give him the benefit of the doubt now, he has earned it.

Randy Lerner is in the situation that his manager packed it in without warning five days before the start of the season, and three weeks before the end of the window. It's hard to see how you can make a good appointment in that time period. Also, in completing the Milner deal, we took Ireland as a big part of it. Hardly the actions of someone who is all about the cash. Ireland may have been part of the deal but it was hardly paramount. I think Man City were actually more happy getting rid of him to lower their numbers than you were in getting him. Not to mention Ireland was laughably bad vs us, and a pykie, and a caravan owner. Nice bit of casual racism there. What does what Man City wanted have to do with it? Lerner took him in part exchange in the deal. I would have thought that a chairman who is all about the money (and trust me, we know to spot one of those down here) would have been dealing in cash only. I tend not to write players off after one game, as it happens, so I think I'll give him a bit more time than that to settle.

Randy Lerner is in the situation that his manager packed it in without warning five days before the start of the season, and three weeks before the end of the window. It's hard to see how you can make a good appointment in that time period. Also, in completing the Milner deal, we took Ireland as a big part of it. Hardly the actions of someone who is all about the cash. I know there's not a lot of great managers out there at the minute but 3 weeks is plenty of time to appoint a new manager and allow him to get some players in before the end of the window. I don't think so. And we have had a player in before the end of the window, Ireland. What is double annoying is that MON walked at just the time we're used to him finally remembering that the transfer window closes, and starts doing business. He had a meeting with Lerner on the Saturday, which went fine, they talked about transfer moves / the impending season, Lerner flew back to the US, got back and received a phone call saying O'Neill had quit. How can be expected to swat off turmoil like that? When you give the manager total free reign to run the club - which MON had - and he walks out, it is doubly difficult. We could have gone out and appointed someone just to fill the post immediately, but that would be the stupid thing to do. I'm glad they're taking their time. I want them to get it right. It's too easy to knee jerk and appoint some spacker. Despite how much some people on this thread clearly want it to happen, there isn't any evidence it is going to. The squad is hardly relegation material. We can easily do ok between now and January.

Of course it is unlikely. Incidentally if Man City fail to win at Sunderland tomorrow, Birmingham draw and we beat Everton, we're fourth. This is a testing time, and last week was horrible, but I'm not going to commit hari kiri just yet.

Randy Lerner is in the situation that his manager packed it in without warning five days before the start of the season, and three weeks before the end of the window. It's hard to see how you can make a good appointment in that time period. Also, in completing the Milner deal, we took Ireland as a big part of it. Hardly the actions of someone who is all about the cash.

Come down from what? He was asked to do something about the wage bill, to move a few players on - like every single manager in the league has to, bar Mancini - for the first time in four years, he was asked not to just spend unfettered. There's also a contradiction in "well, MON has left, he did such a good job, they're going to disintegrate now" when you think that it is his squad we have. So, he did such a great job, yet what he built in four years is so fragile it falls apart in a few weeks? Hmmm. MON wanted to buy Aiden McGeady for 10m. To be quite honest, I'd have thrown Lerner's wallet in the canal to stop him sanctioning that.

The turnout was shocking? The atmosphere was poor? What did you expect for a Europa League knock out game? River Plate - Boca Juniors? And 30,000 is hardly dreadful is it? Far from a full house, but better, I observe, than Man City with their 23k. Some of the stuff on this thread is legendary. "A few duff results and they'll have sub 20k attendances". Yes, yes, of course we will. It can only be a matter of days before we start to hear that Lerner's selling the ground to build a casino, and we've applied to join the Conference.

If your last 2 performances are to go by you wont. If the two before that are anything to go by, we certainly will. Two iffy performances in a row? It's hardly Leeds United is it. End of the day, we got tonked by you, played well against Rapid for 70 minutes then imploded. To read some of the media coverage, you'd think we'd gone into freefall. It isn't even September. The football media in this country truly are a pack of mongs. Two week break coming up. Get the manager sorted in that spell and get the right man in, and we'll be more than OK. And as for the "well, they'll probably have to appoint Les Reed" nonsense, this is a club which has finished sixth for the last three seasons, and has had a benevolent, munificent billionaire owner, widely regarded as amongst the best in the league. We've got some very good players, and a very good set up. Like I said, it's hardly meltdown.

Nope its not, its been mentioned on here a fair few times. Jacqui Oatley would get it as well. She certainly would. It would be one occasion I'd forgive her her excited squealing, too. I'd do Celia Hinchliffe as well.

Is it wrong to find that annoying bint on this championship programme really quite fuckable? I think it might be a grudge fuck, mind. Taking it out on the BBC.

We'll beat Everton on Sunday. Convincingly, too. Just you watch.