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You win some, you lose some. I'd say the bright thing about this for you is that 1. Keegan had a go and 2. He had a go early. Shows he's not sitting on his arse waiting till the last day of the window (like a certain other PL manager I could name). I'd imagine it was the London factor which swung it, which is something clubs outside the capital are always going to struggle with when signing foreigners.

I don't know where you got the impression I said any of the above stuff. When we were playing badly, I was on here telling all and sundry our players were already mentally "on the beach". I also mentioned our loss to Sunderland in the very post you're replying to. I've also refrained from suggesting we're worldbeaters to anyone, so I don't know where you go that idea from. In fact, if you look at most of my posts on here on the subject, I'm pointing out that we've got a pathetically small squad and have been lucky to get away with it. Quite the opposite to what you're suggesting.

it's more to do with the way those reults have been achieved. pass and go...not perfect but a vast improvment and good for football looking to attack in every game home and away. a work inprogress gradually getting better,stronger and more confident I definitely understand that bit, as i said, results alone don't tell the whole story.

Shoot me down in flames (and I know you will), but isn't it a little bit early for some of the stuff on this thread? The result at Spurs was excellent, no getting away from that, and results alone don't tell the whole story, but wins at home to Reading, Fulham and Sunderland plus a draw away to Portsmouth don't really say that much, especially not with the awful results that came before them. As a neutral I like Keegan (and, to be honest, most neutrals do, it's pretty hard not to, he's such a heart-on-sleeve kind of chap), but surely the time to do the "shame on you who doubted him" thing is when you've had a decent spell to judge him on? Incidentally, before anyone raises it, yes, I know, beating Sunderland at home is something we didnt manage to do.

Barry has only had half a season. Went missing almost entirely from December until 3 weeks ago.

When i was a lad, I used to love Andy Gray. He, alongside Brian Little, was my first real football hero. Now I hate the cunt. Does anyone symbolise everything wrong with football as much as that gravelly voiced bell-end? No. No, they don't.

Dave is surely right. i don't see how statements like 'we need to spend 40m to keep up' hold water, tbh (that's a randomly pieced together sentence, not one someone uttered, but you get my point). Surely what should happen is: 1. Manager plus scouts identify the players they need and believe they can get. 2. Manager tells owner he wants them and thinks he can get them. 3. Owner backs the manager's judgement with the money. Anything other than the above, and the manager isn't being allowed to do his job properly. A good manager will spot the players who will do a job for him without sapping the resources of the owner to any massive degree. If he doesn't, then any owner - regardless of how minted they are - is going to get very pissed off with writing what he sees as unecessarily enormous cheques. Makes me chuckle people pointing out Sunderland. Look at how much they spent last season and look what utter fucking dross most of them turned out to be. That makes my other point - if you're not in the top four, it is actually difficiult to spent big money well these days. The players who are worth it know it, and want to play in the CL. You end up doing what Sunderland did and spaffing money left right and centre in a desperate attempt to get some "cred'. These days when everyone has money, it is about identifying the right players, not just throwing money at a problem.

Strong rumours doing the rounds now that this is a piece of PR put out by the police to calm the situation. Loads of trouble and a stabbing in town last night after the news broke, tensions running very high apparently. Personally I hope it does turn out to have been another Villa fan, else things are just going to get nastier. Bet the Asian community is queuing up for tickets now. They don't need to queue. We post them to their home address in special gold envelopes and lay on red carpet from their door to the ground. Factamundo.

Strong rumours doing the rounds now that this is a piece of PR put out by the police to calm the situation. Loads of trouble and a stabbing in town last night after the news broke, tensions running very high apparently. Personally I hope it does turn out to have been another Villa fan, else things are just going to get nastier.

Can you not read? fuck me. The BBC said there are unconfirmed reports that the victim of a road accident was a rival fan. Even if it was a Brum fan that happened to run over a Villa fan it could still have been an accident. Rumours like that are bloody dangerous. It looks a lot less coincidental if you know the name of the person killed, if you get my drift. Doug Ellis? Ha ha, very good.

Not shown on MOTD but shown on Sky's highlights, Mellberg being subbed near the end, geting a massive ovation, and grinning like a fucker giving it the clenched fists to all sides of the ground. He's one of us, he hates them. He's been on a downward curve for a couple of years, but has played out of position all season without a complaint, and I'm really going to miss him. O'Neill's good at that, he knows when to make substitutions to get the crowd to show appreciation to particular players. http://i30.tinypic.com/soshtj.gif http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f98/PBrain/mellberg.jpg

He's one of those players who has the occasional game where he's "unplayable". Doesnt score enough goals for my liking, but we look a much more rounded side when he is playing. Worried about any of the big 4 coming sniffing after Young, Brummie ? No, not yet anyway. Although you have to be realistic, I think O'Neill is also one of those managers who gets loyalty out of players. If he buys the right players in the summer, then I think we're going to have a very, very exciting season indeed next year.

He's one of those players who has the occasional game where he's "unplayable". Doesnt score enough goals for my liking, but we look a much more rounded side when he is playing.

Can you not read? fuck me. The BBC said there are unconfirmed reports that the victim of a road accident was a rival fan. Even if it was a Brum fan that happened to run over a Villa fan it could still have been an accident. Rumours like that are bloody dangerous. It looks a lot less coincidental if you know the name of the person killed, if you get my drift.

BBC reporting someone died after our match. Rumour is it was a Villa fan who'd been getting some bother off Blues fans, so they got in their car and ran him over. Unconfirmed rumours as yet, but apparently fighting from 9am this morning pretty much up to kick off (away from the ground).

Fucking brilliant. Citeh beating Pompey 2 nil. Short of Angelina Jolie noshing me whilst i watch MOTD tonight, I really do not think today could get any better.

Incidentally, fantastic goal celebration by Big John. Hoisting ball boy up in front of the Holte. http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f98/PBrain/carew.jpg

Come on Newcastle! *sways around giddy with emotion*

Fucking BEAUTY! 5-1, we beat the scum 5-1, we beat the scum 5-1. Last three games scored 15, conceded 1. Massive, massive game at Goodison next week. Pissed all over them today, their fans creeping out at half time!

bluesq do it too

Voronin - "You're just a fat Paris Hilton".

No, RM, I'm far too much of a coward. I went to aways all over the country in the scary days of the 80s, but now as then, at the site of real violence in close proximity, my legs still go to jelly and I feel a bit sick. I'll be standing the other side of the ground and calling them all sorts, mind. Random question but I was just wondering... who do you dislike most passionately, West Brom or Birmingham? Birmingham, definitely. A lot of our fans hate Albion as much, or more. They were our big rivals for 100 years, not Blues. If you talk to Villans from north Brum, they encounter lots of Baggies (the grounds are very close), so hate them more. I am from south Brum so never encountered Baggies, but grew up amongst the Blue scum, so hate them more. I actually don't mind the Tesco bags.

No, RM, I'm far too much of a coward. I went to aways all over the country in the scary days of the 80s, but now as then, at the site of real violence in close proximity, my legs still go to jelly and I feel a bit sick. I'll be standing the other side of the ground and calling them all sorts, mind.

600 police on duty tomorrow, apparently. Their lot are arriving in 25 coaches. Travelling 3 miles from St Andrews. They need to be bussed in, the fucking lowlife weasels. Sneaking in like bitches. I don't really talk like this. I'm just playing the part, innit

No sleep for me tonight. I hate football. I can't even go out and get pissed beforehand to lift the tension a little. I hate the police. Zarate, from a free kick, Carson caught flat footed.