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I'm not going to get drawn into this, but I wouldn't be posting this idea at all if I didn't fucking care.

I can smell this thread going to hell

A fraction of the Premier League deal doesn't equal cheap. It's an absolutely ludicrous suggestion, sorry. I'm sure it's not as simple as "if the club wants to show matches it has to pay 88 million pounds." We'd be negotiating a deal for NUFC matches only, and for transmission limited to outside the United Kingdom and any other areas where the Football League sells broadcasting rights. Again, I'm not a lawyer. I don't know exactly how this works. Neither do you. It seems worth it to ask people who do to look it over. It's not just showing NUFC though is it, there's also an opponent every week we'd have to pay for. I don't know exactly how it works no, but what I do know is that if we go down we're financially up s*** creek without a paddle. Spending a small fortune to broadcast matches to overseas fans will be the absolute last thing on their agenda. You'd be laughed out of the building. For all we know it could make us money. The football league does not sell its rights outside of the UK, so nobody knows what we would have to pay to do this. There is absolutely no reason whatsoever why the option should be dismissed out of hand.

Because those broadcasting rights may cost a mere fraction of what they would in the Premiership, and may therefore make an online streaming service economically feasible? No club with the overseas following the size of NUFC's has ever gone down, so there's no precedent for this. IMO it's more than worth investigating whether this would be a worthwhile endeavor. to be fair many would say leeds were as big. The Premiership's popularity overseas was nowhere near where it was right now when Leeds went down though. Plus, Leeds were never a particularly well-supported club outside of the UK. but if a club was to sell their individual rights ther biggest (by far) market would be the local one. The idea is that the club might be able to negotiate a economically feasible deal for broadcasting rights without stepping on the BBC's toes if it was for transmission outside of the UK only. I mean, what country outside of the UK does the Football League even sell rights to? There's probably pretty near 0 demand for any non-Premiership club's matches overseas other than NUFC's. Surely there's an economic niche that we can work with here. i think you over estimate NUFC's TV pulling power when outside the prem. Perhaps, but I'd at least like to see the option explored.

Is this a f***ing joke? nope Well I'm sure you'll have plenty of time to arrange your f***ing viewing arrangement if and when the worst happens. I don't think it 's appropriate to be discussing them now on a "supporters" forum, do you?! This is an issue that is vital to mine and several other people's ability to support NUFC. I do not give a flying fuck whether you think this is an "appropriate" topic for discussion or not.

Is this a f***ing joke? nope

Considering that the alternative is to give up and slit my wrists now, I'd rather stay deluded and optimistic for as long as I can.

Because those broadcasting rights may cost a mere fraction of what they would in the Premiership, and may therefore make an online streaming service economically feasible? No club with the overseas following the size of NUFC's has ever gone down, so there's no precedent for this. IMO it's more than worth investigating whether this would be a worthwhile endeavor. to be fair many would say leeds were as big. The Premiership's popularity overseas was nowhere near where it was right now when Leeds went down though. Plus, Leeds were never a particularly well-supported club outside of the UK. but if a club was to sell their individual rights ther biggest (by far) market would be the local one. The idea is that the club might be able to negotiate a economically feasible deal for broadcasting rights without stepping on the BBC's toes if it was for transmission outside of the UK only. I mean, what country outside of the UK does the Football League even sell rights to? There's probably pretty near 0 demand for any non-Premiership club's matches overseas other than NUFC's. Surely there's an economic niche that we can work with here.

A fraction of the Premier League deal doesn't equal cheap. It's an absolutely ludicrous suggestion, sorry. I'm sure it's not as simple as "if the club wants to show matches it has to pay 88 million pounds." We'd be negotiating a deal for NUFC matches only, and for transmission limited to outside the United Kingdom and any other areas where the Football League sells broadcasting rights. Again, I'm not a lawyer. I don't know exactly how this works. Neither do you. It seems worth it to ask people who do to look it over.

Because those broadcasting rights may cost a mere fraction of what they would in the Premiership, and may therefore make an online streaming service economically feasible? No club with the overseas following the size of NUFC's has ever gone down, so there's no precedent for this. IMO it's more than worth investigating whether this would be a worthwhile endeavor. to be fair many would say leeds were as big. The Premiership's popularity overseas was nowhere near where it was right now when Leeds went down though. Plus, Leeds were never a particularly well-supported club outside of the UK.

Because those broadcasting rights may cost a mere fraction of what they would in the Premiership, and may therefore make an online streaming service economically feasible? No club with the overseas following the size of NUFC's has ever gone down, so there's no precedent for this. IMO it's more than worth investigating whether this would be a worthwhile endeavor.

Is anyone on here in contact with somebody who gets to go to the supporter's panel meetings? If so, would they be willing to get that person to pass on word to the club about the possibility of broadcasting our matches online for the benefit of foreign supporters if we're playing in the Championship next year? If we go down most of us overseas will no longer have any way of watching the matches, and I assume not being in the Premiership would clear up a lot of the messy TV rights issue that stops them from doing this right now. It benefits the club short term in that a ton of overseas supporters would be willing to shell out a couple hundred a year for such a service, and also long term as if we're ever to be a "big club " again, keeping foreign fans interested while we languish in the Championship will be important. Should there be any legal issues (I'm not sure how TV rights work for the Football League,) surely they could be worked around by limiting access to countries where there are no conflicts of interest? In any case, I think this is an extremely important issue for a lot of people on here, so I would appreciate it if someone could help us get it communicated to the club.

That's for sure! When was the last time we had made all subs at 61minute? That's not an optimal situation of course considering possible injuries/sent offs but clearly we tried to change the course of the game which can't be said about his predecessors. The frustrating thing is why can't he get it right the first time?

I'm starting to think that it's going to be Hull, us, and West Brom.

In retrospect, Lee Cattermole pretty much sent us down.

We didn't need to win this game, but we needed to show that we were improving under Shearer. Having seen us continue to turn in Houghton-level performances, I feel pretty confident saying that this group of wasters is just fucking incorrigible and that we're going to need nothing short of a miracle. 9

It's always easy to blame the goalkeeper.

Nailed on to be a Toon player within 3 years then.

It's an English team on English TV...it's going to be biased. It's not even implicit bias. It never is though. I remember them loving our Champions League run, Boro's UEFA Cup run., etc. I see nothing wrong with English commentators favoring English teams. Wouldn't it be stranger if they were completely neutral? You should see what commentator's' here do for Man U when Park is playing.

I think it might be Pattison

Some people seem to have a weird masochistic love affair with Given. "Oh yes! Hurt us Shay! We're a shit club, we're not worthy!"

Milan? Yeah, Milan. Stupid commentator.

Champions League really is a bit of a joke now. Might as well be a domestic cup. Apparently an English team hasn't lost a two-legged tie to a non-English team since Man U lost to Roma in '07.

what the fuck?

I lack your psychic powers, so obviously I can't argue with you on that. But even I can tell that that's a bit of a contradiction?