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I also find it silly that people lambast players sometimes for "sitting on the bench and picking up a check." Footballers - especially marginal ones like Williamson - more or less have a ten-year window in which to eke out every cent from their skills that they possibly can and then feed their family for the remainder of their lives off that money. If I was in his position, I would never give up a significantly higher wage to go to the Championship just so I could (maybe) start more games. 10~20k a week seems like a lot, but it's really much less than that when you consider that after retirement, the best job this guy is likely to get for the remaining 50~60 years of his life is probably a lower-league manager position.

I completely agree with this. If I was completely useless at my job my personal pride would make me walk regardless of the wage. Lies. Especially when the wage is 5 digits every week. I'd cling on to that job for dear life and milk every cent out of it for as long as I possibly could.

The even more tragic thing is that 9/10 he'll only last a year or two at those clubs, get benched so often that he completely forgets how to play football, and end up sold to Crystal Palace for peanuts or something.

It takes us six months to appoint a manger so a month or two for coaching staff seems roughly appropriate.

You just know that if we get to a cup semifinals/finals, Ashley will sabotage the team specifically so he doesn't have to pay this out

Would rather have none of them. They're all ass-kissing failures who believe they're entitled to work here because they're good Jawdie lads. Me too on both Account Dont need Clark, Stone and Carver them Geordie stoogs. His coaching team at Derby are light years a head of us. If he doesn't bring his own staff to work with him I won't be giving him the time of day. It will only prove that Ashley's penny pinching is set to continue and the interview he gave was yet more lies. I really don't think additional proof is necessary like

Thankfully, there are federal white collar pound me in the ass resort prisons.

just like Lacazette last year, Bony the year before and Aubemayange the year before that, super, we'll end up with darren Bent then Good point, well made. Diegro Ifran it is then..... To be fair we've been telling ourselves we'll sign Darren Bent every window for about three years now Before he became washed up it was Carlton Cole.

You mean player sales minus ten million

This sounds awfully familiar. poor Mike

In any case, with how ridiculous the TV money is getting just about anyone from Leicester City to Crystal Palace will be able to play a few key players 100k a week if they so desire. TV money is the great leveler for all of the non-oil-money clubs, and traditional size of fanbase will quickly become irrelevant. I suspect that within a few years there will be very little difference in terms of financial means between clubs like Spurs (or a non-gimped version of NUFC) and those like Crystal Palace.

How on Earth are some people equating "I'm so despondent about the club in general that I really can't be bothered to be angry about Steve McClaren being our manager" to "coming round to the appointment."

Astounding how good Milner has become given how frustrating he was when he was here. Says a bit about the importance of being in a good, professional environment.

Unreal totally unreal - he's a total fucking Muppet man. Just don't see how anyone can find the energy to be outraged about a managerial appointment when the soul of this club has long since been destroyed by Mike Ashley. We're not a competitive football club so there's no need for us to have a top class manager. That is all.

I don't see how you can look at getting to the UEFA cup final with Boro and say "meh." There's no comparison between McClaren and Pardew really. They're only similar if, as Lenny mentioned, you arbitrarily distinguish all of his major achievements as irrelevant.

Pretty much this. He's not by any means the greatest manager, and it's not the most inspiring appointment, but I just want to look forward to Newcastle games again, he supposidly plays decentish football, has a better record then any manager we've appointed in the last 7 years, so if it does have to be McClaren, I can get behind him, even if it is for a few months. I just think we're far too deep in the shit to be angry about anything as pedestrian as an unexciting managerial appointment. It's like complaining that your wifi signal is weak when the house is on fire.

At the very least, he does seem to be pretty good at resigning once he realizes things aren't going to work out. So if you hate this appointment, I suspect you can at least look forward to another managerial "search" sometime in January. (Which will no doubt preclude any January signings as well.)

Poor Sewelly

It's just hard for me to understand how you had any semblance of hope about this appointment.

Look at you and me Ian, used to be so optimistic, now the most miserable fuckers of the bunch

Can I continue to give the club pelters but watch the games and hope we win? You can do whatever you want mate. I will probably still watch the games too and hope we win, as I did for the West Ham game despite being entirely fed up with the club. As others have said though, the majority of fans will probably consider McClaren the very least the club could have done to appease them. This appointment will likely not cause the outrage it absolutely deserves, but will not get us anywhere either. Guess who wins again. Meh, I've fully filled my quota of outrage. No appointment would have appeased me in any case. As for the people who will be appeased by this, they were probably hopeless to begin with. Also, look on the bright side. We may still get Carver!

What opportunity? I never thought there was even the slightest chance of Ashley turning over a new leaf and that's why I'm not particularly disappointed with the appointment of McClaren. As far as mediocre and uninspiring English managers who should be just good enough to keep us in the league go, he's pretty decent.

A quick glance at their respective CVs is enough to confirm that he's an insurmountably better manager than Pardew.

Therefore, by definition any manager that agrees to work for us is terrible. Yup, sorted.