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Ireland not in Europe? Err, you know what I mean.

Hasn't played consistent football since he left Villareal. He seems genuinely unfit enough right now to turn into another 2006-2007 Bernard. Worrying.

Finnan isn't coming off some really bad injuries and hasn't gone back to his home country because he couldn't cut it in Europe anymore though.

A lot of people wanted us to get him under Roeder. Certainly reeks of "old and past it" now though.

Apparently his old club recently got into some trouble trying to sneak him onto the pitch. Slovenian FA rules don't allow players 16 or younger to play in senior matches.

http://img.siol.net/08/154/633480141099479001_vu%C4%8Dki%C4%8Dharis_080508_nkdom%C5%BEale.jpg Apparently this is what he looks like

Carroll/Baheng/Donaldson/Ferguson/Zambalera/Sami/Ranger plus this kid and the Brazilian one all vying for two spots in the reserves and two spots in the u18s. Seems a bit too much.

I realize it's extremely presumptuous of me to be making any comment about ST holders, but I have to say that it seems a bit silly to complain now that you were "conned" into buying a three-year ticket. You really should have only made that financial commitment if you were absolutely sure that you were going to attend NUFC matches for the next three years. No matter what. If you were only going to go if Keegan was here, or if you were only going to go if we were challenging for Europe... Well, you should've bought a one year ticket then. I mean, even ignoring for a moment that you can actually just have your ticket refunded if you really don't want it anymore. (That said, I do share your frustration. It's just that all this repetition is getting a bit silly.)

Did I misread or wasn't there a post a little while back confirming that you can cancel your three-year season ticket if you so desire?

On a completely unrelated note, Allardyce tried to buy Cho Jae-Jin, and that tells me all I need to know about his eye for a player.

It's called hindsight. The fact that we were excited about it at the time certainly doesn't exempt it from being a failure. Especially considering that our excitement was mostly predicated on the assumptions that Joey Barton wouldn't go to prison and that Alan Smith was a footballer. whats your measurement for failure? I mean if we'd signed Henry, Lampard and ronaldihno that window and they all failed, would that make the window a failure in your eyes? Umm.... Yes? So a windows success or failure is based entirely on the completely unpredicatable nature of footballers? Surely there has to be some objective measure of a windows succes? Its a bit like saying appointing Wenger is only good appointment if he suceeds completely ignoring the merit of the appointment. The way i see it is that appointing Wenger will be a good appointment, full stop. By that line of reasoning there is no accountability for transfers, full stop. Because no one can predict whether a player can succeed or not. In reality, you expect the club to be able to make some sort of reasonable projection on a potential signings chance for success. The warning signs were clear for our signings that summer. Barton was facing a potential prison sentence. We payed City 5m. Alan Smith was coming of what was nearly a career-ending injury and had not been preforming consistently in the Premiership for nearly three years. We payed Man United 6m. David Rozhenal's physicality was always going to be an issue in the Prem. We payed PSG 3.5m. The fact that the worst case scenarios happened for all of those moves is irrelevant, as the manager's risk assessment itself was quite clearly flawed for all of them. To pick up on your analogy, would appointing Arsene Wenger be a good appointment? Probably, but not certainly. It's up to the board to assess the prevalent risk factors. Can Wenger succeed without the resources he has at Arsenal? Can he succeed within the system in place at the club? Would he be able to adapt to a move to Northeast England? Should Wenger come here and actually fail, it is fair for fans to assume that the board was probably negligent in their assessment of one or more risk factors. That would make that appointment a failure.

So people are still blaming all of this s*** on Shearer? Jesus christ, nobody even mentions him anymore. Man United still sing songs about Roy Keane. Is it killing their club? Get a grip! Are Roy Keane or Cantona or Solksjaer ever mentioned in line with the man united job when fergie hints at retirement? Are they f***. Shearer is, and its f***ing embarrasing. Until he has a little stint here, and fails, we can never truely be rid of it. So we've got Kinnear because people are worried that fans want Shearer? Absolute rubbish. Wtf, how does what i said amount to that? Shearer was a player for us, and great one. AMEN, let's put him to bed. Small time mentality. Well the main problem we're facing is nobody wants to manage the club. You've hinted that it's because of the shadow of Shearer (if that's not what you mean, what the hell do you mean?) No, i haven't. Never mentioned it infact. Not from the other managers angle either. He's not THAT influential anymore. However, it's embarassing that when the position for manager has come up, you get the feeling they seriously want him, Keegan practically begged him to come at some level. It's pathetic, he's an ex-player, let's leave it at that. TO move on, we need to get rid of that mentality, imo. You think there wouldn't be mongs asking for Keane at Man Utd if Ferguson were to retire? You can't just "erase" the influence of a legend ffs. It happens at any club. Shearer's "shadow" is just another one of a long line of excuses that have been used at this club for far too long.

Unless its to quell any questions incoming players might have. Who really wants to listen to what JFK has to say if he will only be in charge another 5 months. A wiser question would be, who would ever want to play for JFK period.

On the other hand, Spurs might sign players left right and centre and then get relegated. Splashing the cash doesn't mean survival. They also don't have a complete joke of a man for manager for the foreseeable future Debateable True. "Joke of a man who's completely unqualified to be managing in the Premiership" then.

On the other hand, Spurs might sign players left right and centre and then get relegated. Splashing the cash doesn't mean survival. They also don't have a complete joke of a man for manager for the foreseeable future

Never mind the anti-Ashley bandwagon, if this happens I'm jumping all the way onto NE5's bandwagon.

It's called hindsight. The fact that we were excited about it at the time certainly doesn't exempt it from being a failure. Especially considering that our excitement was mostly predicated on the assumptions that Joey Barton wouldn't go to prison and that Alan Smith was a footballer. whats your measurement for failure? I mean if we'd signed Henry, Lampard and ronaldihno that window and they all failed, would that make the window a failure in your eyes? Umm.... Yes?

Wanting a manager that isn't a complete idiot is "special?"

I think he just doesn't give a toss anymore. He's completely lost any sort of love he had for the club and just wants to run it in the most frugal way possible until a buyer shows up. And I'd bet my life that the "Ashley will talk to the fans after the transfer window" was just more shit manufactured by Kinnear

Oh God, it's really happening isn't it.

A player's worth whatever his club is willing to sell him for.

I don't think I'll physically be able to stomach supporting a club that has Joe Kinnear as a long-term appointment.

If Kinnear does get a new contract, I'm going to abandon all reason and join the "Cockney Mafia Out!" Crowd. More likely, I'll just shoot myself.

Please no. Just no.

Agree with this. He is available and therefore we wouldn't have to pay over the odds to convince them to sell. If Pennant is available for 3m and we aren't at least trying to get him it can only go down as sheer idiocy imo. It's not as if Portsmouth is looking a more attractive destination at the moment either.