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Was a bit disappointed when Man City opened up the window signing bridge and going after the likes of bellamy/parker This is more like it It may end up killing football, but fuck it, it's great entertainment right now.

Of course, we do have to consider the most realistic scenario: Kinnear is making shit up again.

I dont know! Martins, Owen, Coloccini, Duff, Viduka, Butt and Beye on paper at least, make us look like a big club. Apart from Arteta and Yak i dont think they have anyone of that profile I was thinking more about the league table. Someone needs to go all NE5 on you Dave! From the perspective of someone who hasn't been following the prem all that closely, I think it's possible to think that we're a bigger club that Everton that's just having a bad run.

Good news I suppose. One last stab at winning back our trust. It's also encouraging that he's chosen to speak after the window. I think it's an indication that he believes his actions during the window will speak for him and that the fans will be more receptive to what he has to say. Of course, on the flipside, we could have an absolutely horrible window and Ashley could just come out with something that makes him seem even more clueless. Wait and see, I suppose.

Still feels like some sort of elaborate hoax for some reason.

Well thats us out, and id be suprised if anyone paid that much, Essien didnt go for much more. £24.4 million for essien. I've convinced myself that this is just a smokescreen for a more realistic signing, and that the club doesn't honestly believe they can get this player for 5 mil, or for any amount of money for that matter. Wishful thinking is a critical skill for any NUFC fans' survival.

Wonder if they ever existed, rather.

I dont understand this - we believe him when theres something negative to be contrived out of what he says, but if theres something positive is said no one believes the bullshitter. Oh I absolutely believe that he's gone and made the bid. It's the fact that we're making a 5 mil bid to a club that rejected 6m in the summer for a player who rejected Everton as being "too small time" that seems absolutely preposterous to me.

I assume this is basically what Kinnear's been doing for the last couple of weeks: putting in ridiculously low bids for players and wasting our time.

The Chinese have a saying ; 'It is better to keep one's mouth closed and be thought a fool, than to open it and prove the point beyond all doubt'..... I reckon you have just verified the truth of their saying...... Wasn't that Mark Twain? He pinched it from China - reputedly a Confucius saying, Brummie.. It's actually biblical (Proverbs 17:28, even a fool that holdeth his peace is counted wise.) That said, Confucius said a great many things that pretty much amount to "shut the fuck up you idiot," so merlin's intended reference isn't that far off. This has been your nugget of useless information for the day.

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So are Hull. You don't need to fucking spell it out for me. Howay! The people on this forum sometimes...

Ah come on guys, I know things are bad but Blackburn are awful too... right? ah.... shit.

We can't lose this we just can't. Jesus Christ, please. I'm begging you.

reminds me of the old days. Give the manager no chance, then call for his head. One or two people will remember those days with great affection, before they were "embarrassed". What exactly are your views on Kinnear? Do you think he should be given till the end of the season? Do you think he'll work out for us long term?

Judging by the fact that he's changed tune in less than 24 hours, I suppose we can assume that the two loan signings were also complete bollocks as well.

Dear me, I just spent 10 minutes wiki-ing all the Cameroonian midfielders out there in case anyone else fit the description when Kinnear's probably just being an idiot again. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somen_Tchoyi Closest thing I could find, btw

Well that's just Kinnear embarrassing us even more then, unless there's some other 6"2 Cameroonian midfielder out there.

well said my man....can anyone on here say that if Fat Fred was still incharge we would be in this s***..he would never have entertained the structure and even considered appointing JFK... I'm not going to sing the praises of Shepherd, but could you imagine him not backing his manager with cash at this point in time, instead of scratching around for freebies? We would probably be on the verge of going into administration if he was still here. Both fair points. I think the issue here is that Fat Fred understood us and our expectations, which is why he'd do anything to placate us, which is surely a sign of SOME sort of respect, whereas Ashley not only doesn't care to understand us, he simply is doing whatever the hell he wants, which is very little. *The smirking Llambias comes to mind* Shepherd also blatantly ran the club out of money with the Souness fiasco. We weren't exactly setting the league alight with spending under Roeder.

Confidence must be truly in the abyss now. Wouldn't be surprised if we went on another shit run like the one we hit immediately after the Keegan debacle. Just when the derby is coming up too. Lovely.

No matter how shit they are, nobody will ever match the sins against the club Souness committed during his reign here.

Did you actually support us when Souness was here? I did, I didn't think he was THAT bad, yes, he took us down the league, but there were good moments, moments which others have failed to achieve while also dragging us down the league. I'd welcome him back with f***ing open arms atm, and buy him a house too. Never give him a penny of transfer funds though. Souness with money... bad memories.

Kinnear isn't that f***ing bad. At least he's adapted in some ways like not dropping Bassong, giving N'Zogbia an extended run, playing Gutierrez on the left. For these things alone he'll always be above the likes of Fat Sam and Roeder for me. He may be a loose tongued idiot with severe limitations but at least he's shown some adaptation. The root problem goes further up the ladder to the people that appointed him. Fat Sam, Souness, and Roeder were all category 3 managers. Doesn't make it right that we've gone and signed another.

Honestly don't know where to start with that post. You can start wiping that fucking grin off your face. Cheeky cunt.

We need to be sucked into a fucking parallel universe, as its apparently written into the fundamental laws of this one that NUFC has to suffer.