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Loser of Korea v. Aussies is guaranteed to get China. (as opposed to the Uzbeks or Saudis) I think I'll take that loss now.

It's going to be fun watching the Saudis sack their entire FA again.

That would be ace, especially since they're probably one of the few teams in this tournament we might be able to beat comfortably.

I'm going to end up hating this thread aren't I

Fucking Australians are going to destroy us

I will take this shitty, completely undeserved win.

Bad news is always true at this club.

Jesus, the Chaminator still has it at 35

God knows why we can never break down shit teams playing ten behind the ball. We've only been trying for about 30 years now.

Are you seeing this? We are so, so, so, so shit.

CY Lee out for tournament. Seven changes to starting XI today because of flu outbreak in squad. South Korea at the Asian Cup

Must... Resist... Hope

If we get Garde and Shola comes on as assistant manager

All I know about him is that he's not Carver. Good enough for me.

"Talks" Mike Ashley has offered you a contract of £2,000p/w. The minimum expectation is that the club not achieve a respectable position in the Premier League. The minimum expectation is that the club be eliminated in the third round of the League Cup and FA Cup. Ashley is willing to offer you a transfer budget £0p/w, and a wage budget of £400k p/w. Accept contract? Yes/No

Are they reliable, or? It's good news, so no.

Hope he signs for New England. Would go to games just for the lols.

I try not to hold it against him

Was thinking the exact same thing. Nobody has even bumped the "realistic transfer targets" thread because we know there won't be any. (Though I suppose drooling over managers we aren't going to get is kinda the same thing) The thought that we will appoint Carver, sign Shola, and sell Sissoko by the end of the window Sometimes I wonder why I even bothered to be happy about Pardew leaving.

I wonder if they'll put him in FM so we can all revisit this dilemma ourselves.

Just appoint goddamn Carver already. The hope and suspense are eating me alive.

This is it for me. As for the idea that he's being hounded from every job opportunity because of how he phrases things is f***ing ludicrous tbh. Saying "my infidelity" is stupid but it's not the reason he's being hunted down at every opportunity. He's at the centre of a massive witch hunt, there's nothing else to it. Every single interview I hear about the case involving someone from a group that campaigns against rape and violence against women etc specifically refers to the fact that he's shown no remorse or made any sort of apology. It's almost always the first thing they say in response to the question about whether he should be given a second chance. Like it or not, there are clearly a lot of emotions riding on what he has said since being convicted. I have no sympathy whatsoever for the people who are trying to stop him from playing football. The law has established a sentence to fit the crime: if a person has served his time, that should be the end of it. I don't want to live in a society where certain crimes force people to become "untouchables" living on the margins of society for the rest of their lives. If he wants to claim that he was innocent, that's his right. If he wants to act like a complete knobhead, that's his right as well. If anyone should have a say in whether he gets to sign for Oldham or not, it should probably be the Oldham fans. One of the big problems I have with the anti-Evans arguments is that I don't want to live in a society where the way a person is treated is based on media perceptions/ what pressure groups or the most popular-est celebrities have to say on the matter and that is what is happening at the moment. He was tried under a court of law and, whether some like it or not, convicted under a court of law which is the first thing his detractors (rightly) point to. He has served, and is continuing to serve, his sentence as laid down by that same legal system. The terms of his sentence allow him to legally resume his career now and, whether others like it or not, he should probably be allowed to do so. He does have the right to act like a knobhead, just as I have the right to (and do) consider him to be a knobhead. That shouldn't mean me (or anyone else) has the right to stop him resuming his career just because they don't like him. It's why we have a legal system. Hypocrite alert: If it was NUFC, I would feel an awful lot stronger about it. Yeah, as a fan I wouldn't want him in my colors. But that's the supporters' decision to make. If they're willing to accept it they shouldn't be forced to do otherwise by political pressure.

I suppose the argument against would be more powerful if he was signing for a Premier League club and getting massive media exposure, but it's Oldham ffs. Let him earn his wage.

This is it for me. As for the idea that he's being hounded from every job opportunity because of how he phrases things is fucking ludicrous tbh. Saying "my infidelity" is stupid but it's not the reason he's being hunted down at every opportunity. He's at the centre of a massive witch hunt, there's nothing else to it. Every single interview I hear about the case involving someone from a group that campaigns against rape and violence against women etc specifically refers to the fact that he's shown no remorse or made any sort of apology. It's almost always the first thing they say in response to the question about whether he should be given a second chance. Like it or not, there are clearly a lot of emotions riding on what he has said since being convicted. I have no sympathy whatsoever for the people who are trying to stop him from playing football. The law has established a sentence to fit the crime: if a person has served his time, that should be the end of it. I don't want to live in a society where certain crimes force people to become "untouchables" living on the margins of society for the rest of their lives. If he wants to claim that he was innocent, that's his right. If he wants to act like a complete knobhead, that's his right as well. If anyone should have a say in whether he gets to sign for Oldham or not, it should probably be the Oldham fans.

People's reaction to the law is that they usually want to overpunish people who've committed crimes that they would never be in a position to commit, and underpunish people who've committed crimes that they could see themselves doing on a bad day. The reaction to Ched Evans is a textbook example of this, unfortunately. I do think he should be allowed to play football, but casting doubts upon a jury verdict based on hearsay and conjecture is rarely useful. The mongs going a step further and harassing the victim are just beyond help.