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Hiddink is a ****ing amazing motivator. (Although he's more of a disciplinarian than a "come on lads!" kind of manager) One of the best in the game. Just a cursory glance at what he's done in Korea and Australia should tell you that. As long as you'll give him enough money, Hiddink loves a shambles. There's a reason he's traveled around international minnows instead of going to the big teams. He knows his strength is getting 150% out of weaker players, and he enjoys sticking to that.

Really, the interesting thing about Shepherd is that even if we choke his purse to the max, what makes you think he'll do the right thing? The fact is, he doesn't even know what the right thing is. If the fans look angry about the manager, he'll think "crap, I guess they really want Shearer" and get him in as manager. If the fans look angry about the squad, he'll think "crap, better get a big name in" and go throw 12m at Darren Bent. Shepherd simply doesn't have the ability to do smart things. Putting pressure on him will just make him panic and start driving this club down in an even more rapid manner.

Hiddink would be TRULY ideal to get the best out of our underpreforming players and whip squad discipline back into shape. Heck, the two things the man likes most in life are money and a challenge. We could give him both. ....Assuming he ever walks out of Abramovich's pocket in Russia that is.

How on Earth can Parker be overrated when you lot are all ready to jump on his back every time we lose, draw, or there's a full moon out. As for overrated player, I'd have to go with Taylor as well. But that's only because his star has been much, much too high before we went and **** on ourselves last week. And why is Given on that list. If our recent crap form has proved anything good, it's that Given is a ****ing superhuman.

Just sitting in whinging is just about as effective as whatever fan protest could be mounted tbh. We're just not in an era where the fans can actually pressure their clubs. I'll stick to voodoo. Got some dolls of Freddy and Glen ready. With lots and lots of pins. And a fire. Oh yes.

Whatever, I can't even be bothered to try defending Parker anymore

Traveling from the USA spending about the same mate. Last week I felt like I'd been shot in the gut. Now I feel like somebody capped me in the head just to make sure I'm down. Never have I seen a preformance more utterly lacking in passion and drive. Clearly nobody (or at least certain somebodies...) thought they had anything to play for. It was unlucky to concede after dominating play for so long, but completely losing our mental grasp of the game after that was entirely the fault of the players. (And of coursee, Glen, who at this point is culpable for the war in Iraq, the Khmer Rouge massacre, and the Bubonic Plague as far as I'm concerned)

at least have the sense to keep it in the 390480842 page long Luque thread that most sane members know to keep out of.

If I see Van Gaal's face again I'm going to puke. And Bernard? How can we keep something that doesn't even exist? Bernard's an urban legend tbh. The Batman of NUFC.

My God, the man's just in shambles now. Get him out the door before he starts making an even bigger fool of himself

Goalkeepers have the ability the ability to relieve the defence by coming and collecting crosses...Shay doesn't do this and subsequently adds pressure to the already VERY fragile defence. But a goalie can't make crap players good. Thank you for your contribution and thoughtful criticism of the subject discussed. Lets put it this way. Let's assume that I gave you 10m to get a goalie. (****, that's pretty silly money for a 'keeper even) Name one that would come here and would be a significant improvement over Shay.

Sack Glen and put him in as LB. He used to be a defender right? Can't be any worse than what we have...

It actually sounds like Olivier is taking an indirect jab at Roeder to me. Perhaps he's seeing the changing tides and severing ties with his "pal"

None of that is all that far from the truth. Surprised to see something this incisive from the BBC to be honest.

The extra gates, prize money, and prestige European competitions give us far outweighs any sort of immaterial advantage we could gain from "concentrating on the league" tbh. Personally, I'm still hoping we'll nick an Intertoto spot this season. Not that I think it's very likely, but I have to find some way to attatch meaning to the game we have left.

Just out of curiosity, what has Ronaldo been saying about Bramble

The Shay-bashing always shows up after every bad defeat. I won't even bother bandering about the useless "world class" debate, but I don't think anyone here can disagree that his saves for us FAR outnumber his mistakes. End of.

old git ,so its ok to let this s*** go on season after season and just accept it .its called caring old dear , There's a difference between caring and just bitching for the sake of it. I've got no quarrel with you.

I could care less tbh. I know what I've put in, I know what I've seen, I know how other clubs are run / perform What I'm saying is that mate, if you can't be bothered about the Toon anymore, just walk away. Stop using it as a device to big yourself up as the "cynical cool guy" on an internet message board. aye, that's exactly my motive behave If you want to find the martyr, he's called NE5 you want to take a guess at how many members support your view right now? I hardly think I'm in the minorty Not to be condescending, but I honestly have no idea what you were trying to say there. look look its another guy 'bigging himself up' http://www.newcastle-online.com/nufcforum/index.php?topic=37317.msg742296#msg742296 I'm not bothered about people just saying it's hard to care now right after the loss today. God knows I was too for a moment. The problem is your general "we're shit, and I'm so cool because I dont' care" Attitude that's been going on for ages now. I'm just tired of reading it. Especially now.

I could care less tbh. I know what I've put in, I know what I've seen, I know how other clubs are run / perform What I'm saying is that mate, if you can't be bothered about the Toon anymore, just walk away. Stop using it as a device to big yourself up as the "cynical cool guy" on an internet message board. aye, that's exactly my motive behave If you want to find the martyr, he's called NE5 you want to take a guess at how many members support your view right now? I hardly think I'm in the minorty Not to be condescending, but I honestly have no idea what you were trying to say there.

I could care less tbh. I know what I've put in, I know what I've seen, I know how other clubs are run / perform What I'm saying is that mate, if you can't be bothered about the Toon anymore, just walk away. Stop using it as a device to big yourself up as the "cynical cool guy" on an internet message board.

No idea about league preformance. But I can predict with utter confidence that there'll be plenty more disgraceful fans who think "supporting their club" means shitting all over it at every opportunity.

you wouldn't know a board with zero ambition if it hit you in the head with a pickaxe. You are better off sticking to toontastic with all the other idiots that agree with your nonsensical, idealistic views. I am glad I wasn't as stupid and deluded as you when I was 16. I'm actually surprised you haven't gone after a lot more of the threads that are coming up today. Plenty of opportunities to defend the Shepherd and co. all over the board right now.

Well, that's probably because they're *gasp* English. I'm not as bothered about the bias as I am about their general stupidity.

I take it this is a joke? Bramble is s***. But ask yourself, are Taylor, Huntington, Ramage, or Oneywu better? yes, taylor and gooch are better! Taylor is just as mistake prone as Bramble. To be completely honest, I think a lot of it gets covered up because of his (admittedly admirable) work ethic and the fact that he's a Geordie. Thankfully, he's still young, so he's got a shot to improve. Gooch, from what he's shown us so far, is no better than Bramble. Again, I sincerely hope he'll get better once he gets a permanent deal and settles down in England, but for now that's the truth.