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Has there been a recent poll that you can point me to? I'm basing my judgement on the comments I read across the various social media channels.

If we announce that we are just tarting up SJP then that is a very worrying sign for how long PIF plan to stick around IMO. A huge statement of intent needs to be made this summer and a new stadium needs to be the priority. I think the vast majority of the support have now come around to the idea that SJP is now hindering our progression as a club, so the owners should quit worrying about making the decision to build elsewhere within the city centre.

The amount of humble pie being gorged on by people will be something to behold if this happens.

Good, not great. IMO. And definitely not worth £50m.

This is my worry too. If we blow £50m on Solanke this summer then that will be confirmation for me that things are going in the wrong direction.

Honeymoon well and truly over now I’m afraid. And his position needs to be under scrutiny for the rest of this season. I don’t think it’s guaranteed that he will be here next season. This summer is absolutely crucial and if we get it wrong it will shaft us for a significant amount of time. It’s a worrying time IMO. Awful performances for months and we have now lost our much-fabled Director of Football, with one of the reasons apparently being that he doesn’t have the best relationship with the manager. Are we certain that the right bloke is leaving the club? We have had rotten luck this season but what is happening on the field right now is simply unacceptable.

What exactly are these stats describing?

Finally, they are starting to catch on. https://www.readytogo.net/smb/threads/what-is-the-point-in-sunderland-afc.1628318/#post-40206224

Lots of chatter on social media about Leeds' brilliant atmosphere at Elland Road last night. Interesting how looking at this video of it, & the demographic seems to be widespread kids in their 20s and early 30s. An all new extended SJP should allow us to get this kind of crowd into our stadium.

It also took them nearly 100 years into their history to overtake us on trophies won. Or 102 years if you’re just talking domestic trophies. Not once before 1968 had they ever been ahead of us on trophies won. They are obviously a giant now but that’s only happened in the last 30 years. Busby made them big and Ferguson made them elite. Before the 1950s though they were the literal definition of mediocrity.

Twelve managers in the last 10 years. Or 20 managers if you included caretakers. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Sunderland_A.F.C._managers

Utter shambles of a football club.

I've watched the first couple of episodes of this series and I've never seen so many unhealthy-looking people as those in this documentary. Not even on trips to Blackpool, and that takes some doing.

Unfortunately, we will. They are correct in what they are saying on red cafe. It will get negotiated down to about £12m IMO.

Exactly this. £20m is a pittance when you consider how much they and the media are crowing about nabbing him from us. Double it to £40m and we are talking….and he still can’t start working for them till 2nd September.

Please make the point that fans absolutely MUST be allowed to choose where they sit within the stadium if they are going to persist with this. I applied for this workshop too and got nowhere. Couldn’t even win a ballot to talk about the ballot.

Aye, he won’t be there next season.

It definitely needs to happen on that kind of level if we truly want to challenge the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool on a long-term basis. We need a mountain of revenue to come from our stadium and a tarted up SJP simply won’t cut it.

I'm not disputing that. The point I made was that I believe that PIF offered to sort out the BEIN dispute long before October 2021 but the PL simply put more obstacles in the way. The court case eventually made them back away from those obstacles and allowed it to go through based on paying the compo to BEIN alone.

That's the thing with that place though. They can't criticise without resorting to catastrophising. That Deschain character on there is the worst....an absolute drama queen, and flip-flops all the time, depending on how a game pans out.

It's not that I don't think resolving the piracy issue was what unblocked it. I just don't believe that it took PIF 18 months to offer to do that. I reckon they offered to sort it very early on in the saga but the PL just put more obstructions in the way, at the behest of their six overlords. Once the whole thing went nuclear with the televised hearing, the PL just said "ok, sort out your with dispute with BEIN.....like you offered to do so 18 months ago.....and we will pass it through"

It's amazing how people still can't see it. The thing dragged on for 18 months and then as soon as the PL's QC had his arse handed to him live on a stream the whole thing was resolved within a fortnight. Piracy my arse.

If you think the criticism has been bad on here, console yourself with the fact that it's not infested with complete cry babies like this place. https://www.not606.com/threads/toon-v-hatters.410988/page-10 To be fair though, reading across the various social media platforms, last weekend was the first time I've seen it being openly questioned whether Howe will still be the man in charge in a season or two.

The facade might not be to everyone's taste (personally I think it looks amazing) but the inside of the Bernabeu is hands down the best layout for seats in a football stadium IMO. It's got the perfect mix of great views for everyone & steep stands/proper roof that create an enclosed, imposing & intimidating environment. I'd love it if we built a near replica of that layout. We can debate how it should look on the outside after that.