mrmojorisin75

There really is no understating how mental it would be for the PL to knock back investment from a sovereign wealth fund at this point in time like. My feeling is the delay, if it even is a delay, will be them covering their arses and helping the buyers find a way to get it through clean.

Fair point but knowing everyone on that pitch with you has tested negative must be fairly reassuring still. A lot more reassuring than a lot of workers who will be coming into contact with dozens of strangers on a daily basis. If they don't come back next month then I reckon that means it's finished for a long time. As the situation will be no different in September for example with no vaccine. The game would implode if it was away for a year or more it's just not sustainable. That's why it has to come back and it will in the next 4 weeks or so yeah i agree, at some point we're either going to have to accept that there's a risk and do what is necessary to mitigate it or lockdown until there's a vaccine (which isn't practicable) if i was being tested multiple times a week and knew the others players and staff involved all were (down to everyone, bus drivers, cleaners, cooks whoever) then i'd personally consider the risk acceptable And as soon as one person tests positive? Isolate and trace no? Just like real countries are doing for normal people. Well yeah, but tell me who is going to want to train in an environment, or play against opposition, where people they're playing with or against have recently been in contact with a teammate who's got the virus. I don't really know why it needs repeating... normally when people go to work in an office or a supermarket or a shop, they don't sweat all over each other, wrestle opponents in the penalty area etc etc. The list is endless. It is not a normal job. And not to mention the well publicised unreliability of the tests. All it's going to take is for a player to get seriously ill, and then it's all off again. It doesn't " need repeating" I made the exact same point. It's about risk analysis. So one player tests pos? Isolate him and his teammates until they're eligible to test to see if they have it. Game postponed until clear. I'm the least Tory person there is but I honestly think at some point mitigations are going to have to be accepted. If we wait 12-18 months, then so many footballers and staff in lower leagues and are going to lose their jobs across Europe because we haven't got going again and they'll be no parachute payments etc. Also I suspect many players will be wanting to take a small risk to get going again if all the measures are implemented properly to protect their safety. Honestly don't think it's reasonable to ask for 100% mitigation because that won't happen until there's a vaccine. I agree with you...I just think it’s far too early. Maybe when there’s 100 new cases a day. Not when there’s 4000. Right but if they're socially isolating as we all should be still, and everyone around them regularly tested I personally just think it should be enough. Bear in mind it'll be a fairly intense period so they shouldn't be doing much other than training and playing football. All will have cars to drive to and from. All could get their shopping done easily without exposing themselves to the wider public and so on. Yeah it'd be shit for them but it's shit for a lot of people.

Fair point but knowing everyone on that pitch with you has tested negative must be fairly reassuring still. A lot more reassuring than a lot of workers who will be coming into contact with dozens of strangers on a daily basis. If they don't come back next month then I reckon that means it's finished for a long time. As the situation will be no different in September for example with no vaccine. The game would implode if it was away for a year or more it's just not sustainable. That's why it has to come back and it will in the next 4 weeks or so yeah i agree, at some point we're either going to have to accept that there's a risk and do what is necessary to mitigate it or lockdown until there's a vaccine (which isn't practicable) if i was being tested multiple times a week and knew the others players and staff involved all were (down to everyone, bus drivers, cleaners, cooks whoever) then i'd personally consider the risk acceptable And as soon as one person tests positive? Isolate and trace no? Just like real countries are doing for normal people. Well yeah, but tell me who is going to want to train in an environment, or play against opposition, where people they're playing with or against have recently been in contact with a teammate who's got the virus. I don't really know why it needs repeating... normally when people go to work in an office or a supermarket or a shop, they don't sweat all over each other, wrestle opponents in the penalty area etc etc. The list is endless. It is not a normal job. And not to mention the well publicised unreliability of the tests. All it's going to take is for a player to get seriously ill, and then it's all off again. It doesn't " need repeating" I made the exact same point. It's about risk analysis. So one player tests pos? Isolate him and his teammates until they're eligible to test to see if they have it. Game postponed until clear. I'm the least Tory person there is but I honestly think at some point mitigations are going to have to be accepted. If we wait 12-18 months, then so many footballers and staff in lower leagues and are going to lose their jobs across Europe because we haven't got going again and they'll be no parachute payments etc. Also I suspect many players will be wanting to take a small risk to get going again if all the measures are implemented properly to protect their safety. Honestly don't think it's reasonable to ask for 100% mitigation because that won't happen until there's a vaccine.

Fair point but knowing everyone on that pitch with you has tested negative must be fairly reassuring still. A lot more reassuring than a lot of workers who will be coming into contact with dozens of strangers on a daily basis. If they don't come back next month then I reckon that means it's finished for a long time. As the situation will be no different in September for example with no vaccine. The game would implode if it was away for a year or more it's just not sustainable. That's why it has to come back and it will in the next 4 weeks or so yeah i agree, at some point we're either going to have to accept that there's a risk and do what is necessary to mitigate it or lockdown until there's a vaccine (which isn't practicable) if i was being tested multiple times a week and knew the others players and staff involved all were (down to everyone, bus drivers, cleaners, cooks whoever) then i'd personally consider the risk acceptable And as soon as one person tests positive? Isolate and trace no? Just like real countries are doing for normal people. Well yeah, but tell me who is going to want to train in an environment, or play against opposition, where people they're playing with or against have recently been in contact with a teammate who's got the virus. I don't really know why it needs repeating... normally when people go to work in an office or a supermarket or a shop, they don't sweat all over each other, wrestle opponents in the penalty area etc etc. The list is endless. It is not a normal job. And not to mention the well publicised unreliability of the tests. All it's going to take is for a player to get seriously ill, and then it's all off again. It doesn't " need repeating" I made the exact same point. It's about risk analysis. So one player tests pos? Isolate him and his teammates until they're eligible to test to see if they have it. Game postponed until clear. I'm the least Tory person there is but I honestly think at some point mitigations are going to have to be accepted.

Fair point but knowing everyone on that pitch with you has tested negative must be fairly reassuring still. A lot more reassuring than a lot of workers who will be coming into contact with dozens of strangers on a daily basis. If they don't come back next month then I reckon that means it's finished for a long time. As the situation will be no different in September for example with no vaccine. The game would implode if it was away for a year or more it's just not sustainable. That's why it has to come back and it will in the next 4 weeks or so yeah i agree, at some point we're either going to have to accept that there's a risk and do what is necessary to mitigate it or lockdown until there's a vaccine (which isn't practicable) if i was being tested multiple times a week and knew the others players and staff involved all were (down to everyone, bus drivers, cleaners, cooks whoever) then i'd personally consider the risk acceptable And as soon as one person tests positive? Isolate and trace no? Just like real countries are doing for normal people.

are we expected to believe they've given mike ashley £17m non-refundable even in the event that something completely out of their control goes wrong? maybe they're not as smart as we hope

Fair point but knowing everyone on that pitch with you has tested negative must be fairly reassuring still. A lot more reassuring than a lot of workers who will be coming into contact with dozens of strangers on a daily basis. If they don't come back next month then I reckon that means it's finished for a long time. As the situation will be no different in September for example with no vaccine. The game would implode if it was away for a year or more it's just not sustainable. That's why it has to come back and it will in the next 4 weeks or so yeah i agree, at some point we're either going to have to accept that there's a risk and do what is necessary to mitigate it or lockdown until there's a vaccine (which isn't practicable) if i was being tested multiple times a week and knew the others players and staff involved all were (down to everyone, bus drivers, cleaners, cooks whoever) then i'd personally consider the risk acceptable

i'm out of cans until the big shop tomorrow, will be torn if this comes off today

generally on rose's side myself like, how many occupations are there where the people you work "with" you have to have physical contact, spitting all over the place and heavy breathing from exertion? hairdressers can't go back because of the personal proximity but footballers can? that said if they implement a clear and rigorous testing programme then it's harder to argue against obvs, even if you understand that unless the players are totally isolated it'll never be 100% safe

if we're to assume this is happening then nothing more important than a statement signing at number 9 for me - we've been on ashley austerity strikers for 13 years and it's proven that it's about the most important position there is

who has supposedly "sent" these new concrete-evidence documents like, and they didn't they bother to send them to the french courts

cp! Welcome back

Aye, the RAF etc didn’t give Iraqi kids or Syrian kids much opportunity to reach 69 either. So why doesn’t the UK stop selling arms around the world then. UK government aren't buying football clubs I f***ing HATE this comeback btw Why? Honestly don't think I can be fucked mate. Shouldn't have said owt.

Aye, the RAF etc didn’t give Iraqi kids or Syrian kids much opportunity to reach 69 either. So why doesn’t the UK stop selling arms around the world then. UK government aren't buying football clubs I fucking HATE this comeback btw

Fucking new are you? :lol:

this, get fucking rid asap - ID the new manager first by all means but you'd really hope that's already been done in the background, there is no reason whatsoever to keep this clown on any longer

haven't seen a massive amount of him but when i've seen him really like the look of that lad cantwell at norwich

Could he cut it physically in the PL you think?

Nah same

Jeees, man, can't you see that almost everyone disagrees with you. The vast majority of us think he has not done 'a decent job' by a very, very long way. Can't you just give it a break? Please??? rafa had more to do with his "success" than he did man, ffs

it's extremely believable when you consider (a) the ownership and (b) the manager like inevitable rather than believable

That's the only one for me, but as I posted earlier I don't see how they can distance themselves from all the other politcal angles but use that one Either we're being bought by the embodiment of a nation state with all the political baggage that brings (which the PL appear to have already discounted in their reply to Amnesty), or we're being bought by an investment fund which is separate from the state and can't be deemed to have any influence on other Saudi owners. Can't have it both ways. I can see why this is taking some time, though aye MBS being on the board of PiF is surely an issue you'd think, if he wasn't then you've no direct/indirect link but seeing as he is there's surely a strong argument to tie the fund to the state and he's already proven he can influence any saudi when he locked them all in a hotel and stole loads of their shit complicated indeed

then i'd say there's a chance they could bin it on the influencing another club angle, as fucking daft as that would be

On the face of it, it seems like the PL would have plenty of support if they denied the takeover. They would have plenty of support, but I don't think that's mojo's point (apologies if I'm speaking for you wrongly mojo). It's more about how deeply entwined foreign politics already are with every aspect of this country, including football. If they knocked this one back for any reason which was even vaguely political, then dozens and dozens of other investments in football and wider society would immediately be called into question. that's why you might argue the sheff utd angle could be their "get out" if they wanted to knock it back but given how money hungry they are the delay is probably them trying to find a way to let it go through without breaching that part of their own rules