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nah he's not man, you must have missed that part of this thread...i think it was something to do with ashley being shite, the reason why he's not a lucky manager

Can you list the injured or suspended players in the same game to add some context?

He's changed it for sure, he was even talking about controlling the game through possession on Saturday. Even before the Swansea game he fancied our more direct style over their passing game, but I think that was a real wake up call. Before that game the crossover to passing football has been sort of half-hearted. Tbh, even if he's not a natural believer in the passing game like Martinez or Laudrup, just giving the players the go ahead to play more football is half the battle. At least he's not actively making them look shit. we were saying this during the periods of agricultural football if you remember? lo and fucking behold

me neither. It may be that we take more notice of them than we would if it were a Norwich or a Stoke being down there so give them a bit more credit when they aren't horrible. i have a feeling they'll do something as well, but it's really got to get going pretty fucking soon you'd imagine

this shit is utterly baffling, i've not seen anyone failing to praise the guy for turning it around since sunderland (other than discuss the context of how we achieved certain victories like chelsea, or spurs)...he's getting the praise, yet any post that has anything other than fawning adoration is labelled anti-pardew bile

Agree with TRon and Venkman, be a massive challenge for him to try to stick to the style and gameplan when he's stripped of a number of key players. To date he's always reverted to shitball when this has happened. Which is more or less what I started saying in the first place, desperate apparently.

What? For your benefit injuries and suspensions don't happen to anybody but us. Assuming that's what he meant, and I don't think it is, what does it have to do with pardew not being able to perform when he's hit by them?

What?

i note this was conveniently cut from my post as well like

how does any of that change what i've said? i agree he's fine when he's got the minimum he feels he needs to work with, when he doesn't have that he'll struggle (last season) - this is all i'm saying really...if we get crippled over xmas with 7 injuries and suspensions he'll not be able to muster up some amazing performances from the meager tools at his disposal, that's just not his thing this season he's had plenty of options and has done well there's no controversy here

aye this, when things stop going his way again he'll crumble into tiny little pieces, and let's face it at some point things stop going everyone's way There's been a few times he's been seemingly on the brink (Reading at home last season, the 0-3/0-6s, after the Sunderland game a couple of months ago), but he's managed to either put a mini run together (like we did after the new signings went into the team last February), but this time seems more sustained. That seems to suggest he doesn't crumble when things are going badly. nah, howay man, i'm clearly referring to a sustained period of injuries and/or suspensions...he's had results go against him this season and we've bounced back like we did when finishing 5th but in that season and this he had the majority of the players he'd want on the pitch available to him most of the time imho i've not seen anything like last season from an NUFC manager personally, he was gone mentally - had no answers whatsoever for what to do in the face of (at times) extreme difficulty, he was just a passenger or another supporter, powerless to stop what was happening until 5 players turned up and saved the season for him Desperate stuff. what the fuck are you on about?

aye this, when things stop going his way again he'll crumble into tiny little pieces, and let's face it at some point things stop going everyone's way There's been a few times he's been seemingly on the brink (Reading at home last season, the 0-3/0-6s, after the Sunderland game a couple of months ago), but he's managed to either put a mini run together (like we did after the new signings went into the team last February), but this time seems more sustained. That seems to suggest he doesn't crumble when things are going badly. nah, howay man, i'm clearly referring to a sustained period of injuries and/or suspensions...he's had results go against him this season and we've bounced back like we did when finishing 5th but in that season and this he had the majority of the players he'd want on the pitch available to him most of the time imho i've not seen anything like last season from an NUFC manager personally, he was gone mentally - had no answers whatsoever for what to do in the face of (at times) extreme difficulty, he was just a passenger or another supporter, powerless to stop what was happening until 5 players turned up and saved the season for him

aye this, when things stop going his way again he'll crumble into tiny little pieces, and let's face it at some point things stop going everyone's way credit to the guy for this season to date as you say, but it's built on almost ideal circumstances again with injuries/suspensions... (i realise this will be seen as some that i'm unnecessarily being negative about the guy but that's not it, it's just the truth as i see - he's doing great at the moment )

nothing needs to change here, nothing at all

beckham either "one of the best players england has ever produced" or "a walking clothes horse" as always, the answer is probably somewhere in between

for any team to do it would take a quality manager and a decent period of time imho martinez & pochetino both look decent candidates for the ones who might break the strangelhold if given enough time and backing...to be honest they look the only ones

i like the bloke who is going to wait to see if they make the final before he casts his vote

so they're investing the TV money basically

Jeez, the man's only trying to have a discussion That one missed it's mark then. Not a bad article that actually, as the op said nice to see someone believing you can actually compete without billions of dollars.

Lol. Embarrassing thread, we're 3 points above them in the league, take your negativity elsewhere.

No, I mean relative to their opponents. Hughton's team was stronger compared to the rest of the Championship than Pardew's current team is compared to the rest of the PL. Fucking Christ Almighty. What's up mate? You're stating the obvious to the extent it's pointless even posting it. If it were anything else, people would be saying Pardew should be challenging for the title. Have you just popped up to have a go for no reason? It followed on from a discussion about how Hughton should have been expected to do very well with the squad he had. Then I was asked to explain, so I explained. You really need to give up on the idea that every post I make has some sort of agenda to praise Pardew. was gonna say like, someone asked you what you meant seemed a harsh chelp tbh

what other factors, sorry? Three big individual errors by Santon and twice by Remy. Maybe not so much the first chance that Remy had, but definitely the second miss and the naive play by Santon. Had those things not happened, I'd have been saying that we didn't create enough. I wasn't exactly happy with the way that we played overall, but I still felt like we were the more threatening team and carved out enough chances to win. It needn't have been that way, but his plan (which I'm against) still should have worked tbf to him for once. nah, take that to the extreme and players and aren't making the run/killer pass that he told them to in training as opposed to the missed sitters s*** happens, he still instructed them to do what they did at half time and that's the bottom line ET - as it happens i have no complaints about the weekend because (a) they're a f***ing canny team with a clever manager and (b) we didn't let them roll us over, fought back and were on top at the end Shit also doesn't happen. Don't get me wrong, I massively dislike the bloke and I'm pissed off that yet again we've sat back after a lead and that we've yet again reverted to type on the back of a really good possession-based performance against Man United, but for all of the downfalls, that miss by Remy in particular isn't something that you can account for. I predicted that it would be 2-2, so really I shouldn't be disappointed with the result, but I am because I still think that we deserved to win. Draw was right imo on balance. We fell apart real good at the start of the second half and it could have been much worse.

what other factors, sorry? Three big individual errors by Santon and twice by Remy. Maybe not so much the first chance that Remy had, but definitely the second miss and the naive play by Santon. Had those things not happened, I'd have been saying that we didn't create enough. I wasn't exactly happy with the way that we played overall, but I still felt like we were the more threatening team and carved out enough chances to win. It needn't have been that way, but his plan (which I'm against) still should have worked tbf to him for once. nah, take that to the extreme and players and aren't making the run/killer pass that he told them to in training as opposed to the missed sitters shit happens, he still instructed them to do what they did at half time and that's the bottom line ET - as it happens i have no complaints about the weekend because (a) they're a fucking canny team with a clever manager and (b) we didn't let them roll us over, fought back and were on top at the end

something still tells me they'll stay up tbh, they seem to be having a right fucking go at home which a lot of relegated teams can't muster

what other factors, sorry? We created chances and failed to score so i suppose Pardew can't do anything about that but i just felt he was in a good position with Ben Arfa on the bench to bring him on and change the game for us. Still can't understand why he left it so late in the game, from about the 60th minute, every minute that passed i was getting more and more wound up the fact he wasn't yet on the pitch i wasn't asking you brett - what other factors would absolve pardiola this time that they otherwise might not have, in previous games as that's what KI seems to be saying as for your point we've all been saying for fucking years his tactics and timing is wrong but he gets lucky, how dare you, how dare you come on here and say he got it wrong against sovereign state southampton? this is a fucking disgrace