mrmojorisin75

i'm genuinely baffled by your entire approach to these quotes, i honestly am

"Play well and lose, 100%, because this game is about us being able to perform at Old Trafford and being able to show to ourselves that we can compete with teams away from home eye-to-eye. "Sometimes the result in is the lap of the gods; it can be a bad decision from a referee or a piece of magic from a player. We need to have a substance to our performance so we can take ourselves to the next level. I want to play well, be the better side and win. But I would settle for playing well, being the better side and losing. It's about the long-term." really, no idea what he's on about huh?

Why does there have to be an argument? I took from what he said that he has a long term commitment to play attacking football and take the the best teams on on their own patch. In doing doing so they will get stronger as a club over time and be capable of better and bigger things. Like I say though, the occasional game where they have to mix it up a bit isn't going to have an impact on his overall philosophy. I don't think anyone, including him, said it would. It's an utterly commendable attitude for a manager to have imho, the kind of attitude a certain K. Keegan once had as it happens. My fault for putting it in this thread tbh.

Why does there have to be an argument? I took from what he said that he has a long term commitment to play attacking football and take the the best teams on on their own patch. In doing doing so they will get stronger as a club over time and be capable of better and bigger things.

It's a manager looking beyond the end of his fucking nose. Jesus. Fine, Martinez is a clown.

actually read the article now: http://www.theguardian.com/football/2013/dec/03/roberto-martinez-everton-accept-defeat-manchester-united now that's a football manager

They have thier eyes further up the league than that tho. hahahahahaha

that's probably it aye, it'll take joe 18 months to pack and carry all the boxes himself

2 headlines on the guardian football this morning: martinez - a good loss is better than a scrappy defeat padrew - robson hailed as a beacon for pardew i read all the chelping about pardew's quotes in the last few pages and it's bollocks for me except to say if robson is his beacon perhaps he should go and watch some interviews with the man, watch some of his football matches in charges of various teams, drink in the way his teams played football. and then perhaps he'd not be such a fucking coward - perhaps he might develop the ability to find a role for a talent like HBA the martinez thing just compared for me a young manager with belief in himself and a commitment to attacking football - the douchebags will be along to tell me that martinez is wrong because of this spreadsheet or other but at the end of the day martinez is the one with the FA cup under his belt, not pardiola

Lasted as long as my fucking post

If you are an apologist, you can fuck off you crazy twat. If you are a hater then welcome aboard brother. start as we mean to go on

YEEEEEEEEEEES

clean slate time if you ask me

mole and reefa are taking the piss no? i hardly keep track of the real haters and wind up merchants these days

was watching contact last night

ian, i suppose the "absolute worst" is in fact that out of work pardew used his influence as a mate of llamblias to plant seeds in the guys mind that he could do a better job than hughton etc. etc. not saying this happened by the way but it's far from the realms of possibility, much in the same way that people "believe" kinnear was getting pissed in the pub with ashley and talked himself back into a role at the club, and believed his undermining of pardew and return to the managers seat was inevitable Well it's possible I suppose, but it's a big leap to just assume that it's what happened. Anyway, everyone uses their connections to try and get work. It's up to the regime who they give the jobs to. similar leap to assume didn't, no?

hate bits like that in bold twisting things ever so slightly to make it worse than it is an otherwise good post though and i completely agree with how competitive the league is now, i was thinking this at the weekend where i think you're perhaps missing the point isn't that people don't think we have an automatic right to to beat such and such a team, the way i see it is on a game by game basis when we dominate through attacking football, score one or two goals then batten down the hatches to see it out you'd have to be right arsehole to kick off if any team came up to SJP and gave us a game from the off then took a share of the points, what pisses people off is being in the position to capitalise on a start then not taking it but i suspect you know this

ian, i suppose the "absolute worst" is in fact that out of work pardew used his influence as a mate of llamblias to plant seeds in the guys mind that he could do a better job than hughton etc. etc. not saying this happened by the way but it's far from the realms of possibility, much in the same way that people "believe" kinnear was getting pissed in the pub with ashley and talked himself back into a role at the club, and believed his undermining of pardew and return to the managers seat was inevitable

fortunate that you have inside knowledge of what took place and when between pardew, llamblias and ashley ian otherwise people might think you were talking out of your arse Are claiming you have insider knowledge? Because without it, if one assumes that he engineered the change, with no evidence either way, that would be talking out of one's anus. i am not, that's why i'm not stating with any certainty that he did or not have anything to do with anything neither should anyone else given it's established he's mates with llamblias and was out of work it's not hard to understand where the smoke might come from, even if there's no fire i wouldn't like to say either way tbh

fortunate that you have inside knowledge of what took place and when between pardew, llamblias and ashley ian otherwise people might think you were talking out of your arse

happy face said it ages ago, and i'm totally on board now - he's an average manager (in my mind below average but still) and we're going to have to accept the peaks and troughs that come with him good managers can achieve consistency, he never has in his career but he currently has the best set of players he's arguably had and things look good for him and us again - maybe if we keep this squad together and add to it a little over time he can at least avoid the horrendous troughs in future always said i'd rather he succeed because it means we succeed all of that said i don't think it means we should stop pointing out his flaws and where he goes wrong in individual games, in the same way we shouldn't ignore what he gets right - dropping the popular HBA for the good of the team and results, for one

especially after it following that mackems shite and all

watch us need a win for europe on the last day of the season or something ahem, food poisoning outbreak in the squad, ahem

seems a good time to play them on paper, forwards injured all over the place...i reckon they're there for the taking if we play on the counter aye