mrmojorisin75

doesn't want to leave then, fuck

Do you honestly think adopting Ashley's methods (hiring an inexperienced DoF over the manager, net £0 transfers, allowing the star striker's contract to run down to get him off the wages, trying to sell the club, bringing in a manager unable to find a job anywhere else) back in 2001 would have got us into the CL? Is hindsight only ok to use when it's about Ashley then? yes

Do you honestly think adopting Ashley's methods (hiring an inexperienced DoF over the manager, net £0 transfers, allowing the star striker's contract to run down to get him off the wages, trying to sell the club, bringing in a manager unable to find a job anywhere else) back in 2001 would have got us into the CL? Do you honestly think adopting Ashley's methods (hiring an inexperienced DoF over the manager, net £0 transfers, allowing the star striker's contract to run down to get him off the wages, trying to sell the club, bringing in a manager unable to find a job anywhere else) back in 2001 would have got us into the CL? wow

good point indeed, logical really

Were you there? Do you understand what probably and reckon means? do you understand what always means?

think you'll probably find he can do whatever the fuck he wants

It has to be macbeth. He has a website and his numbers are bigger. bigger font size or bigger in the sense of all the money fat freddy shepherd wasted? WAHEY!!!

Were you there? When was the last footballer who supposedly raped a lass convicted? Load of bullshitters. These guys fuk em and dump em literally the second they pull their dick out and throw em to the floor, these daft slags get the hump and cry rape. Quite funny, but their own fault for shagging a dirty footballer. Are the lads not slags too? Funny how the lass is made out to be a slag but the bloke is just a lad eh? Not really. Elaborate please That's just the way it is unfortunately. Robinho was just getting his mack on. Yet she put it out easily.

You love it. no i don't, honest man i don't, i never even came back to read any more of this thread

not a good start for the man city money machine of death though eh? fucked off by their number one target & their record signing locked up...this will not end well

tried explaining this to cp40 before, doesn't work

oh dear, you've done it now... I'm sure there are some quotes from Keegan himself at the time that indicate as much you can prove any-fucking-thing with quotes though eh? like keegan approving of the sale of milner when in reality it was actually done by nasty mike in a cynical attempt to asset strip the club!! You do realise a lot around here will think you're serious and are currently nodding in total agreement aye, yeah, thinking about it you're right!! COCKNEY MAFIA OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!

And just as objectively you'd have to agree that Phil Neville was a far better footballer than Shearer. Using the competitions won by managers managing different teams, in different leagues, with different financial clout, at different times is far from as objective a way of measuring as may seem. Apart from with us Keegan has never managed a team which has anywhere near the resources necessary to win the big stuff. He's always taken on teams which were a challenge and needed turning around, and as such he got each of the teams he managed promoted as champions the first full year he was in charge (I think). He very nearly won us the league 3 and a half years after almost being relegated from the second division. Are those lesser achievements than winning the Dutch league with PSV, or a cup with Barcelona? Well, objectively, yes they are, but for me I'd rather have Keegan as manager than Robson because given the same resources I think he'd win out quite easily. think you'd have to go back and look at what each club was like when robson took it over, i.e. were PSV strong when he started doing well or was he there during a good ajax period, did he inherit or build the team...were barca on top when he went or real (given that real won the league in his only season it's arguable perhaps) and same for the portugal stint and so on and so forth then do the same for keegan...to do him down a little we were title challengers to man u in one (1.25 maybe) season under him at a rare time when liverpool and arsenal were dogshit and chelski didn't exist, there was man u and us for a little while as blackburn had already started to implode and no-one else was worth anything at that time i'm not slating his achievements at all but if you're gonna bring context into play it works both ways

yep this is what i heard too. Loads of potential but not living up to it does that not apply to every nigerian player, ever? Racist. fuck, again? i watched the obama inauguration too, thought that absolved me must try harder, must try harder...!

oh dear, you've done it now... I'm sure there are some quotes from Keegan himself at the time that indicate as much you can prove any-fucking-thing with quotes though eh? like keegan approving of the sale of milner when in reality it was actually done by nasty mike in a cynical attempt to asset strip the club!!

yep this is what i heard too. Loads of potential but not living up to it does that not apply to every nigerian player, ever?

oh dear, you've done it now...

so true it hurts

why is it getting at him by comparing 2 managers....he's not fuckin jesus or moha**** you know? No, what I mean is we all know SBR has proven to be the better manager over his career, much like we all know Keegan's first spell was better than SBR's time in charge (Not knocking that btw as it was fantastic during some of it). But people are using SBR to belittle what Keegan acheived during his time here in his first spell in charge. Saying it was insignificant to what Robson acheived, well yes it was in someways, but ask anyone who experienced those times and they won't tell you it was such an 'insignificant' period. people who dismiss what keegan did as insignificant are patently fucktards, almost not an exaggeration to say he was instrumental in the rejuvenation of a city

goalposts shifted then, but i don't disagree with much of what you say in this post for a change i was around starting in the promotion season (when i was 16) and have great affection for the bloke, but i also recognise the failures he has as a manager and a person

where were you 92-97 , old type? is it relevant? read the bit in bold - you'll no doubt not have a fuckin clue what it means up yours mr majorspasm, if you say things like....not fit to lace his boots, your not being objective. too many people on here, have opinions, and spouting off about things they never saw. i didn't say it mate, but i saw most of what keegan did and achieved in his first period (home & away) so don't give me that shite how much did you see of robson when he was winning shit all over europe then, seeing as you're talking about opinions and objectivity? i never said , it was your point, you jumped in , when i was questioning old types opinions,.. if you dont want me to reply, then why did you butt in, didn't say i didn't want you to reply - i want you to be able to argue and reason like an adult, but you can't EDIT: and it seemed to me were actually gonna question his attendance rather than his opinion, am i wrong? Question if his Keegan opinions weer based on wehat he saw, an adult point in my opinion, you then acted without reason, and not adult like when you said i wouldnt have a fucking clue about the bit in bold. Read it back you fool, it was you that, started the mud slinging here, i simply obliged by lowering myself a long way down to your level. cp40, i'm gonna keep trying: oldtype's point was that robson achieved success across europe and won things everywhere he went managing barcelona no less and winning 3 cups with them in one season keegan had 5 great years, was rightly lauded in european & world football for the quality of the game we played and he won no prizes except the first division title an objective view can only judge one of them a better manager than the other, a subjective view (which i've really no problem with as long as you're aware that that's what it is) might see someone thinking keegan was better because of the great times they had watching his team play and the effect the man had on our club

why is it getting at him by comparing 2 managers....he's not fuckin jesus or moha**** you know?

where were you 92-97 , old type? is it relevant? read the bit in bold - you'll no doubt not have a fuckin clue what it means up yours mr majorspasm, if you say things like....not fit to lace his boots, your not being objective. too many people on here, have opinions, and spouting off about things they never saw. i didn't say it mate, but i saw most of what keegan did and achieved in his first period (home & away) so don't give me that shite how much did you see of robson when he was winning shit all over europe then, seeing as you're talking about opinions and objectivity? i never said , it was your point, you jumped in , when i was questioning old types opinions,.. if you dont want me to reply, then why did you butt in, didn't say i didn't want you to reply - i want you to be able to argue and reason like an adult, but you can't EDIT: and it seemed to me were actually gonna question his attendance rather than his opinion, am i wrong? Question if his Keegan opinions weer based on wehat he saw, an adult point in my opinion, you then acted without reason, and not adult like when you said i wouldnt have a fucking clue about the bit in bold. Read it back you fool, it was you that, started the mud slinging here, i simply obliged by lowering myself a long way down to your level. what a shit post he's had better

where were you 92-97 , old type? is it relevant? read the bit in bold - you'll no doubt not have a fuckin clue what it means up yours mr majorspasm, if you say things like....not fit to lace his boots, your not being objective. too many people on here, have opinions, and spouting off about things they never saw. i didn't say it mate, but i saw most of what keegan did and achieved in his first period (home & away) so don't give me that shite how much did you see of robson when he was winning shit all over europe then, seeing as you're talking about opinions and objectivity? i never said , it was your point, you jumped in , when i was questioning old types opinions,.. if you dont want me to reply, then why did you butt in, didn't say i didn't want you to reply - i want you to be able to argue and reason like an adult, but you can't EDIT: and it seemed to me were actually gonna question his attendance rather than his opinion, am i wrong?

just noticed this, you really are a fucking tit aren't you cp40?