Kaizero

They have a future fee agreed so up to Barnsley.

Yup, thought he looked great tbh. I still get a twinge of sadness every time this thread is bumped, mind. The psych evals on reality shows, celeb versions or not, are laughable. If they want you on the show they'll get you on the show, even if you have paranoid schizophrenia.

I don't really have a problem with that. It happens the other way, where a player is offside when the pass is played but onside after it takes a deflection from the defender. It's just bad luck. Or good if you're spurs. Yeah, I dunno, there's just something about it which feels harsher, in that it wasn't an ill-timed pass or run; just effective pressing forcing an error and then capitalising on it. I mean, regardless of any of that, the bottom line is that there's f*** all in it and Aguero hasn't unfairly gained an advantage by being in that position. One of the major inconsistencies of VAR is that the 'clear and obvious error' thing seems to be applied just about everywhere except offside, where incidents are so seldom clear and obvious. They might review a clumsy tackle in the box and, despite there being evidence that a foul was committed, a penalty remains ungiven on the basis of some woolly and subjective metric around the ref's ability to make the call in the first instance. Yet offside calls, based on meaningless inches in either direction, are being scrutinised and enforced with the fullest extent of their s**** tech. If the lino misses a stray kneecap it's a clear and obvious error is it? Total bollocks. I agree with most of that, but I don't think that incident can be blamed on VAR. He was in an offside position when his teammate touched the ball, so he's offside, thems the rules. The lino should have given it as offside. Just had a closer look and it's a lot tighter than I first thought but I still think it's offside. Without VAR we'd be discussing how Spurs were robbed. Yeah but I'd far prefer that to the soul being sucked out of every goal celebration. I'd prefer a fair result. I feel people complain about VAR sucking the emotion out of celebrating goals like realizing the linesman raised his flag after celebrating your ass off wasn't something that used to happen before VAR. Barely ever, I'd always look at the linesman as soon as the ball crossed the line - aye you'd get some oblivious people who took maybe ten seconds. Having a 'fair result' is just not worth it for me for removing the best thing about football. I realize it's subjective and a tired debate so I'll refrain. In my own view, I'd personally rather not NUFC won a cup final (as if we'd ever get to one ) if that win would forever be marred by a s*** decision, I'd want us to win it fair and square. But yeah, people in different corners won't convince the other at this point so it's as you say a bit tired at this stage. Your argument is slightly flawed because VAR doesn’t guarantee a ‘fair result’. The offside calls cannot be accurately measured as accurately as they’re trying and football decisions are subjective in the main, there isn’t always a ‘right’ decision that everyone is in unanimous agreement about. Does VAR overturn enough wrong decisions to make it worthwhile with all of the disruption? Absolutely not, imo. We’re having as many conversations about decisions as we always have, but now we’re having decisions about what is/what isn’t a ‘clear and obvious error’. So in actual fact, there is more controversy and more contentious decisions with the added bonus of large disruptions to the flow of the game and sucking the passion out of it. Plus I disagree with your whole point about not feeling satisfied if we won a trophy through a bad decision. We’ve had our fair share of s*** decisions, I couldn’t care less if we won the FA Cup 1-0 through Wilson throwing the ball in the net from a throw-in. It’d mean just as much as a 10-0 win. We’ve won f*** all, how can we be so fussy about where the win comes from? Because it'd be tantamount to cheating and I, personally, would not enjoy it as much as if it wasn't won that way. I'm not saying others wouldn't enjoy it, just that I wouldn't, and that I am massively in favor of VAR and thinks it improves the enjoyment of the game a thousandfold for me. That said, it has a lot of wrinkles to iron out before it's perfect still, but I want it to get there and so it needs to steadily evolve and be used to iron out said wrinkles.

I don't really have a problem with that. It happens the other way, where a player is offside when the pass is played but onside after it takes a deflection from the defender. It's just bad luck. Or good if you're spurs. Yeah, I dunno, there's just something about it which feels harsher, in that it wasn't an ill-timed pass or run; just effective pressing forcing an error and then capitalising on it. I mean, regardless of any of that, the bottom line is that there's fuck all in it and Aguero hasn't unfairly gained an advantage by being in that position. One of the major inconsistencies of VAR is that the 'clear and obvious error' thing seems to be applied just about everywhere except offside, where incidents are so seldom clear and obvious. They might review a clumsy tackle in the box and, despite there being evidence that a foul was committed, a penalty remains ungiven on the basis of some woolly and subjective metric around the ref's ability to make the call in the first instance. Yet offside calls, based on meaningless inches in either direction, are being scrutinised and enforced with the fullest extent of their shite tech. If the lino misses a stray kneecap it's a clear and obvious error is it? Total bollocks. I agree with most of that, but I don't think that incident can be blamed on VAR. He was in an offside position when his teammate touched the ball, so he's offside, thems the rules. The lino should have given it as offside. Just had a closer look and it's a lot tighter than I first thought but I still think it's offside. Without VAR we'd be discussing how Spurs were robbed. Yeah but I'd far prefer that to the soul being sucked out of every goal celebration. I'd prefer a fair result. I feel people complain about VAR sucking the emotion out of celebrating goals like realizing the linesman raised his flag after celebrating your ass off wasn't something that used to happen before VAR. Barely ever, I'd always look at the linesman as soon as the ball crossed the line - aye you'd get some oblivious people who took maybe ten seconds. Having a 'fair result' is just not worth it for me for removing the best thing about football. I realize it's subjective and a tired debate so I'll refrain. In my own view, I'd personally rather not NUFC won a cup final (as if we'd ever get to one ) if that win would forever be marred by a shit decision, I'd want us to win it fair and square. But yeah, people in different corners won't convince the other at this point so it's as you say a bit tired at this stage.

I don't really have a problem with that. It happens the other way, where a player is offside when the pass is played but onside after it takes a deflection from the defender. It's just bad luck. Or good if you're spurs. Yeah, I dunno, there's just something about it which feels harsher, in that it wasn't an ill-timed pass or run; just effective pressing forcing an error and then capitalising on it. I mean, regardless of any of that, the bottom line is that there's fuck all in it and Aguero hasn't unfairly gained an advantage by being in that position. One of the major inconsistencies of VAR is that the 'clear and obvious error' thing seems to be applied just about everywhere except offside, where incidents are so seldom clear and obvious. They might review a clumsy tackle in the box and, despite there being evidence that a foul was committed, a penalty remains ungiven on the basis of some woolly and subjective metric around the ref's ability to make the call in the first instance. Yet offside calls, based on meaningless inches in either direction, are being scrutinised and enforced with the fullest extent of their shite tech. If the lino misses a stray kneecap it's a clear and obvious error is it? Total bollocks. I agree with most of that, but I don't think that incident can be blamed on VAR. He was in an offside position when his teammate touched the ball, so he's offside, thems the rules. The lino should have given it as offside. Just had a closer look and it's a lot tighter than I first thought but I still think it's offside. Without VAR we'd be discussing how Spurs were robbed. Yeah but I'd far prefer that to the soul being sucked out of every goal celebration. I'd prefer a fair result. I feel people complain about VAR sucking the emotion out of celebrating goals like realizing the linesman raised his flag after celebrating your ass off wasn't something that used to happen before VAR.

Incredible. This place at times, not sure if it makes me crazy or keeps me sane. You can't fault ManDoon on his poster merits at Newcastle-Online, it's more he's.... I’ve taken all your heat for you Fwiw it was just a bit of hyperbole regarding his weird remarks about leftists and him being someone that "tells it like it is" as it stereotypically are remarks coming from people that are old and racist

Incredible. This place at times, not sure if it makes me crazy or keeps me sane. You can't fault ManDoon on his poster merits at Newcastle-Online, it's more he's....

You can't fault him on his manager merits at Sheffield United, it's more he's an old white racist scumbag. What does him being white have to do with it? Also, is he actually racist? I'd be interested in evidence there. As somebody said above anything you type in Google with Chris Wilder racism is him saying he wants more done to drive it out of the game and the strictest punishments possible for those who racially abuse players. You can't just call people racist because you don't like them Aye, my point being that Kaiz' post just comes across as totally racist, basically saying Wilder's a racist with no evidence apart from the fact he's an older white bloke. He certainly says it like it is.

You can't fault him on his manager merits at Sheffield United, it's more he's an old white racist scumbag.

Can a tournament sponsor really pick sides, though?

Not sure where to put this, but I just read an interview where I found out that Haaland's all-time favourite player is... Michu He's even copied the arm on ear celebration from him.

It's not, it's just more James idiocy for the sake of idiocy. Might as well say "Ben Arfa (Île-de-France), Ginola (Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur)" if we're starting to name administrative territories of France rather than countries. Reunion is not an autonomous country and Robert played for his native France. It's not "well played", it's just James not following the rules of the game.

Can't even get the joy out of a loss and from Liverpool falling to 9th. Horrible start to the weekend.

If we don't lose my week is effectively ruined, just as it used to be when we didn't win back when we still had a soul.

I love when we lose.

Nope, but that would've happened had Bournemouth not changed the goalposts when it came to their asking price. They did that in Jan 2020 as well, ended with King sacking his agent at the time but clearly his new one couldn't get it over the line either. I have no idea what Haaland would eventurally choose, just that all the talking points from himself and his father has been praise for OGS and Haaland wanting to play for him again at some point in his career. That makes me believe that he'd choose them over other PL teams after him as long as they're in the CL. I don't know if he actually would, though.

I thought he supported City, could be wrong but yeah I agree with the rest Both Erling and Alf-Inge are Leeds fans. Erling's born in Leeds and everything. When asked what his dream career achievement would be, his answer was: "The dream is to win the Premier League with Leeds."

If Man Utd can find the money and it's a straight choice between Man Utd and Man City for him, I have not one doubt he'll go for the team led by OGS. Guy fucking worships him. Even his father has said it'll likely be Man Utd even if he himself dislikes the team. He said to TV2 last year: "It would be great if he could play for Man Utd as he has a dream of playing the PL in his career, and if that could be for a team led by OGS that would be even greater. I have a relaxed relationship towards that, (disliking Man Utd) you have to separate work from leisure."

If Haaland doesn't end up at Man Utd due to the OGS connection (as long as Man Utd qualify for the CL) I'd be very surprised.

If that’s the case why has he will fully allowed it to happen twice already with a more than serious possibility of a third one incoming. That doesn’t scream out that he cares one f***. I'll give him a text an ask him fwiw his contact information is actually readily available online and he answered me once (on an un-nufc related matter) a few years back

We play almost exactly the same teams as them, if your implication is that they have an "easier" fixture list.

Guy's not played professionally since 2018, was bound to get injured.

Hell I think Ted Bundy could probably do better. True, Bundy always looked to improve his skills.

I'd rather have Ted Lasso.