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There was no carrot at the end of the stick for any of the teams to bother with it. They wanted to get EL qualification for the winner but couldn't get it, so if you qualified for the RL you just qualified for some meaningless extra games and that showed.

Berlusconi's proposal was 16 teams are guranteed spots in a 32 club Super League, but every five years those 16 clubs will be re-evaluated on merit and could lose their guranteed spot for the next five years to another club. The other half would've come through normal seasonal qualification. Given how that got stopped as monopolizing football, I can't imagine this proposal would fare better? I have no idea on the specifics of the laws though

There is a law, it's what stopped this happening when Berlusconi tried in 1998.

It does not show that at all. To get much higher TV agreements you need a closed shop. When an individual network bids for the distribution rights, they will look at the interest in their market for the participating clubs. In the CL, these vary (to a degree) each year, which in turn make it hard to predict viewership figures and ad revenue. The years FC Copenhagen makes it to the CL Group Stage will bring a lot more ad revenue and viewership for the network with the distribution rights in Denmark, but as they are not in it every year you can't bank on that so you go lower. You can't be sure of the non-local clubs with the largest followings in your market participating each year either, which would also alter viewership and ad revenue. It's an uncertainty that networks just can't gamble on. It's probably one of the main reasons the Super League came into existence in the first place.

The CL rights are not massively undervalued. The value would be higher if the networks buying the rights knew what they would get each year so they could calculate their ad revenue based on that. With uncertainty the fees will never be massive, that is unless you have a closed shop. That reality is why these cunts wanted the Super League in the first place.

That's not the reason it can't rival the PL TV revenue wise. See my post regarding how rights work, there's no base-country for UEFA. They'd have to close shop to increase TV revenue, the exact thing we don't want to happen with the Super League. Europa League generates a lot of money that matters to smaller leagues and the matches there with any Norwegian side are more popular than essentially any CL game in Norway (before the QFs) without a Norwegian team.

This version doesn't even allow for a potential reshuffle every five years so would be even more monopolized.

At the time there would be 16 other teams qualifying as well. It was just him trying to ensure Milan would always be qualified and never get off the CL gravy train.

In 1998 Berlucsoni got far with his SL-light proposal (16 teams guaranteed qualification, the group potentially changing every five years based on merit). That proposal was shut down by EU courts as monopolization. Why would this not get stopped as well?

Selling the TV rights for one country is a completely different beast than doing it worldwide. The NFL has a base in the US, its primary TV market. It - as UEFA does - then sells the worldwide TV/Streaming rights on a country by country or region by region basis, there's no "one rights package to rule them all". Nobody could afford that anyhow, except perhaps Amazon or another streamer, which would be anti-competitive in nature. The CL doesn't have a base country and interest in matches will vary in different countries on an annual basis depending on if a team from their country qualifies, so you can't really price it too high with that uncertainty. The SL would solve that issue when it comes to distribution rights, which is why they can demand a higher TV fee - as networks would know exactly what they are buying and can do their fiscal analytics based on that metric without uncertainty. But the uncertainty is what makes the game entertaining, so in all honesty it's kind of a paradox.

NFL should start playing the Super Bowl at 1pm to cater to their European fans, obviously.

So, if the CL deal were for the same length as the NFL deal of $11bn, it would be $25bn. The $11bn is over a ten year period, so $1.1bn a year.

FIFA: "They're either in or they're out and if they go down this path they must live with the consequences."

Difference is the competitions are successor competitions. The CL will still exist, the old English first division ceased existing and became the Premier League.

Can't even beat Leeds.

You've been missed. I can't recall how I found the TV show thing anymore. My assumption is you'd have posted about it on Facebook before the beast was unleashed.

DAZN

In the end it would depend on where the players go. If the best players aren't in the Super League then the TV money won't be in the Super League either even though the largest brands are.

I want Leeds to absolutely hammer them.

JP Morgan is funding it with Amazon likely buying the streaming rights.

Put the house on Leeds -1, Leeds over 2.5 goals, Leeds over 3.5 corners @ 23.00 Just can't believe the Leeds players aren't the most motivated they've ever been to show the cunts up.

Essentially, from my understanding of reading what people with more know-how are saying, you can be expelled from the Premier League by entering a non-sanctioned competition as only participating in the agreed upon competitions in the member charter is a requirement to be a member. The Super League teams know this, but believe that the FA won't have the balls to kick them out and due to being in the Super League they don't give a shit about UEFA kicking them out of the CL, EL and ECL. So in the end it comes down to the balls of the FAs.

Head of legal at the Norwegian FA said he believes that the big clubs have gambled on the national FA's and UEFA not having the balls to expel them and thus strong arming it through, as he says UEFA and national FAs are within their rights to expel them, and he'd expect UEFA to throw them out of the European competitions.

I'd hope in an ideal world, the best players would still want to play in the Champions League, World Cup and their respective continental tournaments - and would realize that the massive wages would remain with them if they, the players, just went to the clubs that now are competing in the Champions League. Thus driving the TV deals by them being players in the tournaments. Without the players, there's literally no interest in the Super League.

Current league table with the shit teams removed: