Kimbo

You obviously don't like evidence then. Keegan said he had final say on all transfer matters. Wise said Keegan had final say on all transfer matters. Ashley said Keegan had final say on all transfer matters. The club then issue a statement saying that he knew he wouldn't have control of transfers. Bollocks did he. I really really can't see how people can blame Keegan for this. The timing of his resignation is a large reason why this is such a mess. He has chosen his ego over what is best for the club, and we are left looking for a new manager in september, the worst time to do it.

Unfortunately people will forever hold this against him, whatever he does, he has to go.

Whatever people say, he will leave the club in better shape than when he bought. Whoever buys the club next has to avoid hiring a club legend, it's too dangerous.

Yes. I wouldn't expect a top half finish with any other manager than Keegan. Would you expect to get 12 months out of him without a resignation?

Why do we NEED the protests? What are they supposed to achieve? I will tell you what they will achieve, fuck all, apart from heaping more drama and bad press on the club. Ashley isn't going to sell the club, or sack anyone, because a couple thousand people refuse to buys drinks in Shearers bar and hold up some nonsensical banner about a cockney mafia.

Nope. He's finished as far as i'm concerned. Give it to Zico.

What did I say that was wrong? Not you, the other guy.

What you said earler was wrong, infact you missed my point.

No they're not, transfers are a small part of what being a manager is about. As far as i'm aware they weren't locking him out of the training ground. They undermined him. Dennis Wise is not a qualified enough person to make signings for Kevin Keegan to say the least, Keegan rightly does not want that, its a simple choice, and Wise is the choice. I agree, but on the other hand Keegan should never have come back under this system, he knows how it works as he was a DOF himself. To put ALL of the blame on Ashley and co is ridiculous, Keegan played his part. What system though? I thought KK was appointed before Wise was. And how confident are we that this "system" was part of the offer when KK came on board? Specsavers for you I feel... The DOF system that Keegan claims he spoke about with Ashley before signing.

No they're not, transfers are a small part of what being a manager is about. As far as i'm aware they weren't locking him out of the training ground. Totally missed the point. Since when is Dennis Wise worthy of lacing KK's boots never mind choosing who he must sign. FI. I didn't miss the point, i was saying that's it's factually incorrect, which it is. It's another example of the hyerbole surrounding this.

A managers job depends on how the players perform, he has every right to have a say in the recruitment process. He shouldn't have come back under this system then.

No they're not, transfers are a small part of what being a manager is about. As far as i'm aware they weren't locking him out of the training ground. They undermined him. Dennis Wise is not a qualified enough person to make signings for Kevin Keegan to say the least, Keegan rightly does not want that, its a simple choice, and Wise is the choice. I agree, but on the other hand Keegan should never have come back under this system, he knows how it works as he was a DOF himself. To put ALL of the blame on Ashley and co is ridiculous, Keegan played his part.

No they're not, transfers are a small part of what being a manager is about. As far as i'm aware they weren't locking him out of the training ground.

Then everyone will say he's either not doing enough, or that he's a liar.

Can i say both?

I don't know if i'll be happy or embarrassed if he comes back.

I don't blame them. The latest overreaction from the fans makes us look like an impossible club to run, if i were Ambani i would probably steer clear aswell.

Spot on, why the hell should fans just accept being shafted by the likes of Ashley and Wise ? Who said you should accept it? The point some people are making is that the last thing the club needs is more drama, protesting will do the club no good at all and it won't make a difference to Ashley selling, only money will. If you don't make a protest then you are just accepting any shi-te Wise and Ashley come out with. If you do make a protest then you're wasting your time and creating more bad publicity for the club. The choice is yours.

They're just mindlessly naming Wise's mates at this stage, i don't believe for a second that Ince is an option.

Spot on, why the hell should fans just accept being shafted by the likes of Ashley and Wise ? Who said you should accept it? The point some people are making is that the last thing the club needs is more drama, protesting will do the club no good at all and it won't make a difference to Ashley selling, only money will.

If the new guy gets results straight away then i'm sure people will calm down, if he doesn't though i'm sure they will create more drama for the club. Some people seem to be revelling in it.

Who is? Genius.

Who is?

I would be over the moon with Zico, he is a manager on the up with ambition and likes to play good football. Plus he will have the profile to attract players and keep players here. You can't hire Poyet when men like Zico and Terim are interested.

Told you I'm still an amateur on here! *Sits in corner* I'll try again.... From an outsider looking in, Faith Terim, a volatile manager who would want control over things is exactly the sort of manager Newcastle would not want. Surely stability is the key? (Though whether this is the system's fault is another debate). Has Terim had much success when there were big expectations, or with a big club in a big league? Apologies if I'm wrong, just from an outsider's perspective, it'd be a baffling appointment. Stability with who? An amateur like Poyet or Zola? I'd rather take a risk on Terim or Deschamps.