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Houllier and Van Gaal are 2 mnagers who come to mind who are ambtiious aappointments and also not too out of our reach.

"Newcastle fans would rather we won the FA cup than the league" - Alan Shearer Boils my piss everytime he says that.

Why would shearer potentially throw his name in the hat if its dead cert that Redknapp is coming?

I wouldnt hold my breath, this has got redknapp nailed on im afraid, its strange because this is the first time in many years where i have actually believed we'd be in a position to appoint a top manager. Part of me thinks im being unrealisitc part of me is seeing it as a realistic option. I just dont understand what could possibly attract Ashley, maybe lookin at the likes of lippi or jose are a tad unrealisitc but the likes of Houllier, Vn Gaal, havent even been mentioned.

British.

Does any one know of a reason why throughout our premiership history why we only appoint english british managers? With the exception of Gullit who obviously was familiar with the english league. I just dontunderstand why throughout our entire history we havent looked to appoint a foriegn manager from a different league and perspective. Not saying that that is the way to success, just that there hasnt been an actively effort to look outside the great bristish borders. My guess is the whole "understanding the geordie culture bollocks" to be honest, i can also see why Ashley and Mort would buy into that if that is what is being peddled about in the media and by footballing people.

f*** that. Mr Miyagi Chuck Norris is your man. They say god wanted 10 days to build the world, Chuck gave him 7.

Not sure how I'd feel about this, what kind of experience does he have of top flight football? I'm aware that he brought Juventus back into Serie A but he left to be replaced by Ranieri didn't he? To be fair, my nan could have taken Juve back into Serie A. Would she be interested inthe toon job? Probably not. She's holding out for the Liverpool job at the end of the season. Smart move

Not sure how I'd feel about this, what kind of experience does he have of top flight football? I'm aware that he brought Juventus back into Serie A but he left to be replaced by Ranieri didn't he? To be fair, my nan could have taken Juve back into Serie A. Would she be interested inthe toon job?

Man, i cant make head nor tail with whats going on (obviously). My big concern is what could possilby have interested both Ashley and Kelmsey in wanting Redknapp, it just doesnt add up. What has he actually done throughout his career that makes Ashley so desperate to get him at this club?? Why would someone be so confident to put £30m in his hands?

Must say it puts me off. It also put me off Allardyce... difference being Allardyce was never arrested. I think we need to sign the right characters as well as the people with the right skills. Was also against signing Barton on the same grounds, and why I feel like vomiting when people suggest signing Chimbonda. I never realised this Redknapp bung thing was in stone, i missed the Panorama thing so dont really know the extent of it all. To be honest asmuch as i dont want baggage at the club i can handle someone like Redknapp, Allardyces involvement in the bung thing didnt seem to affect me too much. As for Barton, i was comletely against him as well, i just couldnt see the sense of gettin rid of Bellamy, Dyer, Bowyer et al then replacing them with possibly THE big troublemaker in the Prem.

because he only does stuff for money Wheres that come from? Im sure he one of the lowest paid managers in the league?

Why do people hate Redknap as a person? Because of his bung stuff?

u-turn of the decade Thought you'd say that, but the subtlty to waht im saying is that it wouldnt be practical and sensible to to leave Redknapp in this window with no finanace to make his own signings and work with them. I still dont think that Allardyce should of got too much backing because he didnt get anyhting out of anyof his signings from the summer. Redknapp or any other manager need to be able to manage a squad which they can call there own the only way to do this is to have there own signings at the club. So not quite a u-turn, just a sensible analysis of the current situation. thought you'd try and deny it. The sensible thing was always to attempt to get into europe. It's a huge u-turn mate, pure and simple. If you dont understand what a u turn is mate then thats your problem. A u-turn would be me saying Allardyce he needed to be back this January, i.e contrary what ive said previously. What im saying is actually different in the sense that a new manager always needs to make new signings, like Allardyce needed to make signings in the summer. The circumstances have changes now. Saying Redknapp needs backing this Januray is not the same as me saying Allardyce needs backing this January, can you see the difference? Probably not. mackems.gif Janitor is right, im not gonna respond to be fair, i just think there are 2 completely different sets of circumstances. I still believe that Allardyce shoudt of been given too much money this Jan which fits in line with my original argumetns but think as this squad isnt Harrys and he wont ave another period to buy his own players till summer he will need backing, Thats all.

u-turn of the decade Thought you'd say that, but the subtlty to waht im saying is that it wouldnt be practical and sensible to to leave Redknapp in this window with no finanace to make his own signings and work with them. I still dont think that Allardyce should of got too much backing because he didnt get anyhting out of anyof his signings from the summer. Redknapp or any other manager need to be able to manage a squad which they can call there own the only way to do this is to have there own signings at the club. So not quite a u-turn, just a sensible analysis of the current situation.

I think it's pretty clear that he'll be backed, I personally see this as the most sensible thing to do in these circumstance, unlike Allardyce he needs to be able to implement his style on the club and the best way to do this would be to sign the players he wants. It would be extremely difficult for him to try and enforce his style on players which arent his signings and so arent moulded to hs fashoin. From what i read, Allardyce was unwilling to change his style and with this transfer window in full flow was looking for signings which would reinforce his style which isnt the route that Ashley and Co wanted to go. If Redknapp comes in and is backed when it is imperative for him to be backed then i will be fully behind his appointment.

I think its a pretty safe bet that this isnt bullshit now Can anyone think of a world class manager who plays attacking football? Someones who potentially available? I say this because i cant help but think that the attacking football aspect is the key bit that Mort and Ashley are running with. Alot of managers have used this "football played in a certain way" line to describe what the Geordies are after. Can anyone actually think of a manager readily available and viable who would come in a produce attackig football as standard?

Fucking hell, im completely in an out here, one second im really positive thinkin that the good times might be back and with a massive warchest we could finally be rising out the ashes, the next minute im thinking "then what?" as in, fine its unfair to say that with a decent war chest and a good football style we might get back into Europe, but (a) would we do it consitently and (b) is Redknapp actually the man to take us further. Add to the fact all this supposed malarky about private jets and £5m per year crap and im truly flabbergasted. I hate to say it but at the mo it looks like Freddy Shepherd never left.

I think he'll suceed to be honest this season isa write off, just a case of seeing what he might bring to the table. An absolute tightrope of an appointment though.

Ok if its, Redkanpp im fully behind him, i actually think that he could have a Keegan-esque effect on us, i think that after seeing some truly horrendous football the past 6 months, that seeing a team play with passion and attacking flair could really lift the crowd and help us get behind the team once again. He might not be the most inspiring candidate but if he does his job and gets us playing football again then i truly think we could see the 12th singin proud again. When Roeder took over the same thing happened we played good football and were hugely relieved that the dire was gone, it even made us think that Roeder could of been a suitable candidate. The only difference is that Redknapp is proven to be pretty consistent whereas we deep down knew Roeder was dogshit all along.

Press 'Quote', then type AFTER the last tag. Or I could stop replying to him Aww come on, is what im saying not viable in your eyes then? That either Olivers story is complete codshit or that Hughes/Redknapp are the ones that "would blow his socks off" LAST GO!!! Because Chris Mort will not be making this appointment, so what makes him happy or blows his socks is irrelevant really. When it comes to footballing matters I belive Mike Ashley is more influenced by his long term pal Paul Kemsley, who has also said more about Sam being mutually dumped than Sam or the club. As some people will know (hopefully the spurs fans will back me up) Kemsley when he was Vice Chairman at Spurs wanted Harry at Spurs for a long time but could not convince Levy to make this appointment. This is also why anyone betting on Jol is a idiot because Kemsley wanted Jol out of Spurs with a passion. When Bill Kenwright wanted to confirm that Moyes was not a Newcastle target he spoke to Mike Ashley & not Chris Mort & Mike confirmed that Moyes would not be approached. When it comes to the big moves it Ashley that is in charge & running the gig. To summarise: Somebody being touted to Mort may well blow his socks off but that may not be the person who Ashley wants. Fair enough, i understnd what you're syaing but i think i disagree with it to be honest, i just cant see Morts opinion being irrelevant, the only viable thing that springs to mind, is that Ashley has been a long admirer of Redknapp never thought it was possible to get him but then Redknapp offered his service which Mort never thought was ever gonna be possilbe, hence "blowing his socks off" and the rest is history. Still dont understand why he would have Ashley or Morts number in the first place though! As for the Bill kenright thing, i think that was coincidence becuae Ashley was sat next to Phil Green, with whom Bill was talking to. It sounded like an off the cuff conversation to me. Hardly formal.

I feel this way too. I'll support him, i think he could be a Keegan clone for us to be honest, his football will dfinitely win over the fans.

Press 'Quote', then type AFTER the last tag. Or I could stop replying to him Aww come on, is what im saying not viable in your eyes then? That either Olivers story is complete codshit or that Hughes/Redknapp are the ones that "would blow his socks off"

I must have missed something. Has it been confirmed that the "SOCKS BLOWN OFF" person was either Hughes or Redknapp. No but the same person who made the "socks blown off claim" follows up the story with a "Its 50/50 between Hughes and Redknapp" 1+1=3/quote] Not quite. Whoever was getting banded about by an agent earlier on the week, to who the club may be after can be completely different things & news storiers. Please note unlike NE5 I have not got the will power, time or can be arsed to explain this over 25+ posts & then deal with the 75 or so sub topics that will be generated. If you cant digest it, ignore it I dont understand, it doesnt quite make sense. Are you saying that things may of changed since oliver was rung and the said manager may not be an option now? You dont say. I am saying who ever was getting touted around earlier on may be completely different to who the club are after which from reading the Chron today it was getting put across that Hughes was a club target. In todays article about Hughes being 50/50 did Oliver refer to the "BLOW YOUR SOCKS OFF" story? But if "Mort had his socks off" by this touted manager why would he be looking at other targets? Surely if he was that impressed by this said manager he'd be pursuing him and him only? Ok!

I have no idea how to stop the quoting thing!