fredbob

The truth sadly

His future is completely out of our hands now, i can see him wanting to leave and i wouldnt blame him. The only way i can see him staying is if we get a top class manager and really prove our ambition, Zog will still be young and painfully talented in a years time, it'll be fair to say that if we dont come on leaps and bound by then then i wouldnt begrudge him wanting to say goodbye.

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If we are in a relegation battle does that mean tottenham are as well? I mean i thinkthe quality of opposition below us is very very low.

Bye bye Zog

I genuinely didnt realise the gulf in class between our players and theres was so big. I can only think off Zog who could make it in the top 4-5. There is absolutely no positivity in our play and only Zog is looking to attack. Noone, absolutely no one seems keen to recieve the ball. I watched arsenal and with a second of someone recieving the ball there was about 2-3 players all lookingto recives the ball. Nothing of the sort from this team. If anything everyone is looking to get away from the ball.

Carr vs Ronaldo/Giggs

wouldnt mind Zog in the cente, wanna see more of Lua Lua, would be nice to see what kind of mentality he has, does he shy away or fight for it.

What about Carlo Ancelotti? His card seems marked? Im sure he would like the challenge as well. Not been mentioned much either.

They should have either sacked Allardyce earlier or waited until the summer. Realisitcally, we'd of needed to sack him mid December so that there was enough time to appoint a suitable manager? That would of been much worse timing in my opinion. As for waiting till the summer, well that would of meant Ashley would of needed to sign players for Allardyce this Jan knowing he was gonna be sacked come the summer, which is basically throwing money away. Maybe a week earlier would of been the best time to sak Allardyce, but that time is pretty insignificant.

Yep, Ranieri would definitely leave Juventus for Newcastle. Maybe he can flatshare with Mancini... Never rated Ranieri to be honest, has he ever won anything? No but he's foreign was this forum loves him. I dont think its an impulsive need to want a foreigner, but i realisation that all the best candidates with proven credentials happen to be foriegn. Hughes and any other british manager outiside the top 4 will always have to the burden of managing a club in a league where noone outisde the top 4 has a realistic chance of ever winning anything. Even the League Cup is now a valued piece of silverware, that is how desperate the big clubs are getting for success. How do you prove your credential without ever having the oppurtunity to have win anything.

The timing is poor, the new person will not have much time to put things right with the team and we might end up going for players in panic mode. Under the circumstances what other options did they have? Surely they cant of backed a dead man walking. Surely they couldnt let the oppurtunity for a new guy o have his window come, it seems plainly obvious to me that Ashley wants to pour the money on us but not under Allardyce's guidance. EDIT: Also if Dirty 'Arry accepting this fat wedge wasnt a cert then i dont know what is, what more could Ashley do? Maybe Mort didnt put it in a brown papaer bag?

The timing is poor, I agree. I dont think the timing is poor, if Ashley knew Allardyce was the wrong man for the job, why would he risk the wrath of the fans by not backing him in the window and why would he want to spend money on someone who will only gear the club towards a type of football which isnt working and isnt "attractive".

I don't see how they've failed this "test" yet as we haven't appointed anybody yet. They've sacked him without having heard positive noises from the man they wanted. Never get rid of a bloke without a replacement lined up, or a significant length of time free to find one. Middle of the transfer window is madness. Could the fans of put up with the inept performances we've witnessed so far for the rest of the season? From what i gather Ashley requested he changed his style of football, make it more attacking and Allardyce (correctly) refused claiming Stoke was a success etc. My point is that Ashley didnt want to back someone who was gearing towards playing turgid football. Maybe his potential targets reflected this fact. I think that this is probably the best time to sack Allardyce so that a replacement can be found and have a decent amount of time to invest in his own players. My only concern with what has happened so far is the fact that they seem to be targetting poor candidates.

Post of the thread. This can't be happening. It's mad isnt it, I'm completely shocked to be honest. Lets just hope this is a blessing in disguise. Surely noone will want the job in england after having 'Arry turn the job down. This surely leaves us with only a foreign option. I've popped a couple of cowboy hats in the post for Mort and Ashers. Cowboy hats?? Why didnt i think of that..... i just pooped in an envelope.

Yep, Ranieri would definitely leave Juventus for Newcastle. Maybe he can flatshare with Mancini... Never rated Ranieri to be honest, has he ever won anything?

I think this bit is the key to the entire statement, this to me suggests that they believe this "we need attacking football" myth. I think they've bought this myth and are therefore looking for someone who plays attacking football.

Van Gaal or Houllier, those 2 seem the best options that this club could look to appoint. I definitely think they're realisitic options and would be pleased if we aquired either of them.

Post of the thread. This can't be happening. It's mad isnt it, I'm completely shocked to be honest. Lets just hope this is a blessing in disguise. Surely noone will want the job in england after having 'Arry turn the job down. This surely leaves us with only a foreign option.

Why he isnt sounded out by more clubs is beyond me, Jose is the flavour of the month becasue he has guaratueed success written all over him, he gets linked with all huge clubs, same with Capello but this guy as far i can remeber rarely gets mentioned i have no idea. The guy quite clearly is a genius.

Bit of both i imagine, i think he'd rue like any british manager not having the oppurtunity to have a big job and after missing out on the england job im sure he'd like a bit of redemption for the FA overlooking him. Also, he;s one of the lowest paid managers in the league and with this appointment with the figures being quoted could become one of the richest, i dont know of person in the world who would turn down the oppurtunity to have there wage doubled or tripled with the added bonus of doing a job they'd really want. To be honest i cant help but feel that the club are towing the "attractive football" criteria. It'd be a shame because i wouldnt want our success to be primarily based on finance but rather have the success of the club based on the managers skill.

more piece of bullshit, no quotes, there's nothing at all to back their claims, the same 1's that we're said earlier it's fairly good knowledge he was in london with family and friends tonight as well Although the driver of the car in that photo does look like Kemsley. In Hong Kong with Ashley?

Will Ashley back them as much as Redknapp? I don't think so. It's easier to say no to an employee than to a mate who happens to be an employee. Not really the point. Im just saying that these are 2 realisitc candidates who are ambitious and would tick all the boxes for the fans.

It's simply not true. Falsehood. If Shearer doesnt know what we as fans want then who the hel does. There are so many myths about nufc.