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___________Lovenkrands_____Carroll______________ _____________________Best_____________________ ____________Jonas____Smith____Routledge_________ Van Arnalt_____Williamson____Collocini________Simpson We have too many rigid players so we should come up with something more flexable. Best could ghost into the box unmarked, obviously adventurous but Jonas & Routledge cant do any worse than Nolan & Guthrie more central, and they can pull out wide when we have the ball. Take the bull by the horns, give them something to worry about, when they arrive at SJP we should want them to see the team sheet and be thinking "shit, what do we do here, who's going to pick him up?".

Absolutely sick of that shit head doing that week in week out, why wasnt he punished? Is it acceptable now like? Total disgrace.

Its pointless because Ashley isnt in it for the long term, as long as Ashley's we're not going to get someone better than Hughton. You cant say Mark Hughes is the best man out there, because no-one is going to achieve anything long term if the fat man's here. If new ownership came in then the likes of Hughes, Curbishley, Sven etc would be possibilites. I know some people wont agree, and some might think its narrow minded, but imo Keegan is the best man for this job. Its actually narrow minded, imo, dismiss him just because its KK. All this quit stuff is giving Ashley far too much credit as a owner, and I question whether a lot of Newcastle fans have read the tribunal. People we're demanding his return when he was forced out, they wernt crazy people then, 52,000 were saying the same thing... the only thing thats changed now is its been proved he was forced out, which is why my feelings are still the same. The team was heading in the rigth direction if we had made some good signings that summer, he's a top manager despite the cliche'd rubbish that goes around. The sentimental part is the incredibly brilliant bonus. There’s too much s*** attached to KK’s last stint as manager for him to come back again. His return would open up divisions in the ranks that haven’t properly healed yet, despite KK being vindicated in a court of law. I doubt Ashley will be selling soon. He might if somebody offered him £200m, but that’s not going to happen. I think his plan is to get promoted but to run the club on a championship budget - use the extra PL to repay the £100m loan. It’s a high risk strategy but if we can manage to avoid relegation for three seasons he’ll have his £100m back and be left with a debt free championship club he could flog for about £100m. This way he can sell the club without losing any money. That does confuse me Everyone wanted him re-installed after he went, and again the only thing thats changed since is we know how he was unbelievably stitched up... ? There were many who bought into the Keegan walked because wasn’t allowed to sign Henry type mud that was being slung around. By the time the tribunal ruled in his favour (and all the nonsense about recruiting players off youtube and the club lying to the supporters about who was in charge of recruitment came to light) it was too late – too many supporters had nailed their flag to the wrong mast and after months of infighting we’re never going to admit they got it wrong. Keegan has become a thorny issue, which is a travesty but sadly also a reality. Better to try and remember the good times and move on. Aye a know how you mean now. The fact the con men stained his name for some people would make success under him even sweeter. Any doubters would soon be following in appreciation again if he worked his magic Im sure, football's such a of-the-moment game. A seige mentality could be created in the midst of media ridicule. I understand what your saying about move on etc, but to dissmiss him would be moving on for the sake of it if anything, despite what could be best for nufc, if some people brush aside the cliche's & murky media-influenced perception, imo of course.

Its pointless because Ashley isnt in it for the long term, as long as Ashley's we're not going to get someone better than Hughton. You cant say Mark Hughes is the best man out there, because no-one is going to achieve anything long term if the fat man's here. If new ownership came in then the likes of Hughes, Curbishley, Sven etc would be possibilites. I know some people wont agree, and some might think its narrow minded, but imo Keegan is the best man for this job. Its actually narrow minded, imo, dismiss him just because its KK. All this quit stuff is giving Ashley far too much credit as a owner, and I question whether a lot of Newcastle fans have read the tribunal. People we're demanding his return when he was forced out, they wernt crazy people then, 52,000 were saying the same thing... the only thing thats changed now is its been proved he was forced out, which is why my feelings are still the same. The team was heading in the rigth direction if we had made some good signings that summer, he's a top manager despite the cliche'd rubbish that goes around. The sentimental part is the incredibly brilliant bonus. There’s too much s*** attached to KK’s last stint as manager for him to come back again. His return would open up divisions in the ranks that haven’t properly healed yet, despite KK being vindicated in a court of law. I doubt Ashley will be selling soon. He might if somebody offered him £200m, but that’s not going to happen. I think his plan is to get promoted but to run the club on a championship budget - use the extra PL to repay the £100m loan. It’s a high risk strategy but if we can manage to avoid relegation for three seasons he’ll have his £100m back and be left with a debt free championship club he could flog for about £100m. This way he can sell the club without losing any money. That does confuse me Everyone wanted him re-installed after he went, and again the only thing thats changed since is we know how he was unbelievably stitched up... ?

Its pointless because Ashley isnt in it for the long term, as long as Ashley's we're not going to get someone better than Hughton. You cant say Mark Hughes is the best man out there, because no-one is going to achieve anything long term if the fat man's here. If new ownership came in then the likes of Hughes, Curbishley, Sven etc would be possibilites. I know some people wont agree, and some might think its narrow minded, but imo Keegan is the best man for this job. Its actually narrow minded, imo, dismiss him just because its KK. All this quit stuff is giving Ashley far too much credit as a owner, and I question whether a lot of Newcastle fans have read the tribunal. People we're demanding his return when he was forced out, they wernt crazy people then, 52,000 were saying the same thing... the only thing thats changed now is its been proved he was forced out, which is why my feelings are still the same. The team was heading in the rigth direction if we had made some good signings that summer, he's a top manager despite the cliche'd rubbish that goes around. The sentimental part is the incredibly brilliant bonus. While I agree Keegan would be a great choice as manager, I just don't think he'd realistically be able to work under the sort of budget Hughton is working with. The reality is that in future most managers are going to have to work under tight financial constraints the way football is going. Aye, the budget Hughton is working with is about making baby steps. True I can also see there being more financial constraints in general, although every ownership wont be exactly the same. I dont think he needs crazy budget, ambitious yes, but just to simply be allowed to spend whatever budget he has as he see's fit, like every manager.

Its pointless because Ashley isnt in it for the long term, as long as Ashley's we're not going to get someone better than Hughton. You cant say Mark Hughes is the best man out there, because no-one is going to achieve anything long term if the fat man's here. If new ownership came in then the likes of Hughes, Curbishley, Sven etc would be possibilites. I know some people wont agree, and some might think its narrow minded, but imo Keegan is the best man for this job. Its actually narrow minded, imo, dismiss him just because its KK. All this quit stuff is giving Ashley far too much credit as a owner, and I question whether a lot of Newcastle fans have read the tribunal. People we're demanding his return when he was forced out, they wernt crazy people then, 52,000 were saying the same thing... the only thing thats changed now is its been proved he was forced out, which is why my feelings are still the same. The team was heading in the rigth direction if we had made some good signings that summer, he's a top manager despite the cliche'd rubbish that goes around. The sentimental part is the incredibly brilliant bonus.

I can understand Hughton keeping faith with him recently, but he needs to make a decision now. Surley he cant keep playing in the middle, we just get totally over-run. Problem is Guthrie hasnt exactly got a brilliant engine on him either, but he might be better than Nolan until Barton gets fit enough.

No. 12? What relevance does that have.. because Boca do? If anything it should be Level 7. It means the 12th man, I like that idea. Personally I dont like the TU name... it potentially puts some people off and it should be a name that encourages more people to join in the same type of mentality imo. So we would basically be copying the Boro who call themselves The Twe12th Man? Is that right? Wouldnt want to be seen copying Boro like.

No. 12? What relevance does that have.. because Boca do? If anything it should be Level 7. It means the 12th man, I like that idea. Personally I dont like the TU name... it potentially puts some people off and it should be a name that encourages more people to join in the same type of mentality imo.

and the your support is f***ing s*** one. Who are ya is canny embarrasing like, even if its a canny funny to simply try & get get a reaction.

Maybe its someone writing with the frustration of how one section of the ground sings through-out most of the game, backing the team, and the rest of the ground rarely choose to join in? Maybe as someone who is passionate about Nufc it is bloody annoying that a lot of the supporters are more interested in moaning & groaning at any mistake than encouraging & supporting? Its fair enough you get a condescending impression of that quote, but why pretend that what I've said isnt the case, because it is. And it is ironic that the 'get out of out club song', a song which has been accused of creating a negative atmosphere (which is fair enough if thats your opinion), comes from the only part of the ground that seems to offer susatined positive encouragement through-out the game - with a lot of other fans choosing to go "AAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHH!!!!" when a player isnt being closed down in our half. I never once said anything about the so-called negative atmosphere created from up there, more the fact that there seems to be a holier-than-thou attitude from a lot of folk up there because they sing "get out of our club" and "your support is f***ing s***" a few times during the match. Aye I know you wernt accusing that song of being negative. Thats fair enough, although I would say that if you hear a lot of people saying on here about how good it is at L7 etc than there might well be some frustration behind what they are saying because of what I've just said.

Maybe its someone writing with the frustration of how one section of the ground sings through-out most of the game, backing the team, and the rest of the ground rarely choose to join in? Maybe as someone who is passionate about Nufc it is bloody annoying that a lot of the supporters are more interested in moaning & groaning at any mistake than encouraging & supporting? Its fair enough you get a condescending impression of that quote, but why pretend that what I've said isnt the case, because it is. And it is ironic that the 'get out of out club song', a song which has been accused of creating a negative atmosphere (which is fair enough if thats your opinion), comes from the only part of the ground that seems to offer susatined positive encouragement through-out the game - with a lot of other fans choosing to go "AAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHH!!!!" when a player isnt being closed down in our half.

The main problem regarding any negative atmosphere in the ground is the groaning & abuse dished out to our own players as soon as someone isnt closed down, or a pass is mis-placed. I can understand it sometimes when Ameobi is jogging around not looking interested one bit, but not with with every player. I really dont think singing that song has any effect on the players, especially when you consider they hear what I've just said on a regular basis, and personally I dont want Ashley to ever feel like he's accepted back again.

No doubt he will keep repeating "I cant do anything at this club apart from survive, because of th limited budget, this club will always be a small club and people cant expect miracles."... even though its the same club and same limited budget Mark Hughes finished 6th & 8th with, Santa Cruz for 2.5m, shrewd transfer business... so what your saying fat sam is that your not as good a manager as Hughes?

Yes, totally, he is encouraging cheating to everyone watching, to every kid watching the game. Absolutely disgusting, and he is abusing his position in a really scummy manner.

Totally agree.

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/9012/llambiasinformation.th.jpg 5.2 The club admitted to the tribunal that it repeatedly and intentionally misled the press, public and the fans of Newcastle United.

http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/3896/barrymoat001.th.jpg "He's doing a good job of this PR stuff, is my bitch"

What utter bollocks. Llambias has already come out and said the money will not go towards transfers. He said there will be little or no transfer kitty in January whatever happens and he would prefer more loan signings. Moat is either badly out of touch with events at SJP or his "bid" was a classic salesman stunt by Ashley to flush out potential bidders. Having read these comments my money is on the latter. Exactly, 500k - 1m a year would "get the right players on the pitch"? Cynical side says he's just been used as a smokescreen, and has been happy to be used that way, you sad, sad man.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11678_5696881,00.html Thanks for clearing up just what sort of fly-by-night c*** you are too, Barry. What a twat, and how much money would we be getting for naming rights that would supposedly get the right players on the pitch? You seriously think 500k would help make that happen? Patronising bastard, wouldnt rule out that people saying he was serious about buying the club as bollocks, and just someone who agreed to take the heat off ashley.

The feeling against Ashley seemed to get people more pumped up for the game, and have a positive impact, not a negative one. Yes, the atmosphere might have turned a bit if we'd went 1-0 down (something that will happen at some point) - but wouldnt that happen regardless of any protests going on? When we went 1-0 down against Doncaster the crowd were right on the backs of the players, and they got boo'd off at half time, and there were no protests before or during that game - so it seems its very easy to jump to the conlcusion that any negative atmosphere if going 1-0 would be because of protests. Its because a lot of fans kick off at going 1-0 down toa team in this division - end of story. Not saying its impossible for any protests to make some fans less patient in the ground, but its not clear cut as some make out, and some poeple go into the ground less patient simply because they expect us to wipe the floor with every team. We should keep on going with the protests, like I said I think it could actually get people more up for the game, and keep on going with banners etc, hoping to get one made myself.

Ashley has took the piss out of us so he deserves to be ripped to peices & ridiculed. But I can understand why the rapist banner might offend people, and we want as many people on our side (media etc) and against him as possible, so from that point of view it could be counter productive, even if it was funny. Good stuff going to the effort to do something though, to make a banner that big, and we need to keep it up.

From a match report on the posh forum. those fans closest to the away support happen to make the most noise. not exactly a news flash is it ? Loads of people on here get on the backs of those who sit/stand up there and sing, just posting it to show a neaturals pov and they thought the fans in that section were the best home support they've heard. they would. they're right next to them and as ever thats where the banter between fans is. sitting in the gallowgate all i can usually here if "get out of our club" and "your support is f***ing s***". has to be said that at SJP from all parts our variety of songs and humour is crap. It was only 4 years ago L7 was absolutely dead next to the away fans, and the away fans would outsing everyone without single reply the whole game.

if no one takes up his offer it will stay as sportsdirect.com@ and we wont get a penny But when new ownership comes in that will be thrown out straight away. Maybe new owners would keep a brand that is bringing in money however small the amount. I'm probably wrong on that, and it would be changed regardless, but you never know. Also, in a weird way, having it sports direct until hes gone feels more 'unofficial' as oppose to a brand name that orignally had no connection with the club (in as much as sports direct is just symbolic of who the owner is). They would unless a contract had been signed to say the board had to be there for so many years. There you go, good point.

if no one takes up his offer it will stay as sportsdirect.com@ and we wont get a penny But when new ownership comes in that will be thrown out straight away. Maybe new owners would keep a brand that is bringing in money however small the amount. I'm probably wrong on that, and it would be changed regardless, but you never know. Also, in a weird way, having it sports direct until hes gone feels more 'unofficial' as oppose to a brand name that orignally had no connection with the club (in as much as sports direct is just symbolic of who the owner is).