timnufc22

Rafa already knows what we think of him and short term vocal support for the players is irrelevant in context of the big picture. They should be publizising SD protests or something. People going to the game and showing support is why Ashley has it easy and can take the piss so much.

Jesus Christ in case you haven’t noticed, this isn’t a normal situation, the club has been hi-jacked by a parasite who is abusing it for his own personal (and spiteful) agenda and is relying on us to still go the games to prop up the pretence of us still resembling anything like a ‘football club’. It’s not about negativity, it’s aboit saving the club from destruction! Saving the club from destruction? Are you kidding me? Nee wonder the mackems I know laugh their cock off. What an absolute load of shite. My father in law is 76 and said to me if he didn't go because he wasn't keen on the owner or the transfer policy or the colour of the strip or that we sold Macdonald / Beardley / Gascoiogne (delete as applicable) then he would have went to about 3 seasons in 60 years. What would you say to him? Or my 18 year old who has know nothing other than Ashley? Sorry Son, you can't go? Bollocks. Senior people and kids I understand. But yes, he is destroying the club and if you don’t think that then you haven’t been paying attention. This isn’t a normal situation. This isn’t a ‘poor’ owner. This is systematic abuse of the club. We either accept it or we don’t.

Na people won’t shut the fuck up becusse was here not going to accept the club being destroyed. Sorry but you get what you pay for, your paying for sports direct F.C. so that’s what your going to get. You do realise he’d be in the shit if there were 30K empty seats flr 5 home games in a row? The PL would actually have a big interest to step in and ask what fuck is going on, the last thing they want for their ‘brand’ is an empty stadium, let alone the one that usually has ‘50K screaming Geordies’.

Jesus Christ in case you haven’t noticed, this isn’t a normal situation, the club has been hi-jacked by a parasite who is abusing it for his own personal (and spiteful) agenda and is relying on us to still go the games to prop up the pretence of us still resembling anything like a ‘football club’. It’s not about negativity, it’s aboit saving the club from destruction!

Players half-arsed tracking back, nobody willing to take responsibility in the middle of the park, half arsed casual passing, aimless hoofs rather than thinking about it and an obvious lack of movement up top. Those boos are kinda justified imo. A lot of these are not down to not working hard - some ability and many not being able to handle the pressure or not having the balls to take risks. They should be rousing themselves to get over the pressure and should find the balls to take those risks. I’ve been critical of the crowd a lot in the past and Saturday p*ssed me off at times too but I think the players not having it within themselves to shake off such fear was bordering into the lazy department. It’s game of football, not a war zone. If you can’t, at some point, find the courage to take risks and drop any fear of making a mistake in front of a big crowd then why are you in football? But then that’s the problem with the state of the game in regards to average/poor players at this level being on massive money, that then becomes a comfort zone. We have a very young team and it's nothing new, we suffered with the same issues last season. SJP is clearly a hard place to play football for our team when we aren't winning. The mental side of things is very complicated, what you are saying is akin to telling someone with depressing to just man up - it's a lot more complicated than that. Obviously I wouldn’t think of telling someone with depression to man up but I know what your saying. The thing is the support has been good at times this year. Granted not all the time and there’s still that whingey element but I think SJP used to be a lot, lot worse between late SBR era up till 2008. There’s always good support from the Gallowgate end now. A lot of fans are singing there hearts out non-stop and I can’t believe the players can’t hear it, towards that side of the pitch anyway. It’s there to feed off. There wasn’t any disssent at the beginning of the game v Brighton and I thought we looked nervous from the off. The mental side is complicated I agree. But this is what they’ve trained for & strived for. Playing in front of a crowd has been factored into their careers more and more through their development. It’s not like they’ve only just began to play in stadiums. There was too much of an acceptance that we weren’t going to win from the players, to me, whatever the reason.

Players half-arsed tracking back, nobody willing to take responsibility in the middle of the park, half arsed casual passing, aimless hoofs rather than thinking about it and an obvious lack of movement up top. Those boos are kinda justified imo. A lot of these are not down to not working hard - some ability and many not being able to handle the pressure or not having the balls to take risks. They should be rousing themselves to get over the pressure and should find the balls to take those risks. I’ve been critical of the crowd a lot in the past and Saturday pissed me off at times too but I think the players not having it within themselves to shake off such fear was bordering into the lazy department. It’s game of football, not a war zone. If you can’t, at some point, find the courage to take risks and drop any fear of making a mistake in front of a big crowd then why are you in football? But then that’s the problem with the state of the game in regards to average/poor players at this level being on massive money, that then becomes a comfort zone.

I watch other teams and they look to have more spirit about them. More of a spring in their step. It doesn’t help when our players look like they’re playing in lead boots and nervous from the off.

it's the howls when the ball goes back sometimes that does my head in? Some just expect the ball to go forward for the whole game. Yeah, there was a lot of that today. It’s not going to help like and some fans make more noise moaning than supporting. At the same time, I really think the players came out looking like scared kittens from the start and they need to find more from within themselves. They didn’t rouse themselves. There’s good support from the Gallowgate like I said. Playing with fear is only going to bring on anxiety from the crowd. They need to shake this fear from their bloody minds because like I said I think that’s nearly as much of a problem as the quality.

Really? I thought it was canny. The crowd realised what we are and what we had to do as a result that night, I thought. The booing like from today isn't on though. I can understand boos if players are blatantly not trying, but this bunch of players are. They're just not good enough, that's not their fault. Where do you’s sit? It’s a million times better in the Gallowgate end upper and we need all the help we can get.

There’s a good core of fans in the Gallowgate end who sing no matter what’s going on. Karl Darlow had his name belted out at the start of the game. Many other players did. There were sustained spells of strong support. I despite whinging from the crowd as much as anyone, it’s brainless a lot of the time, especially with some back passes. I have to say though, it came to a point where you had to question the players mentality and frankly effort. They were playing with absolute fear. Zero confidence about themselves, running like they had lead in their boots at times. Weak attempts at crosses. It was as if some were resigned that it was too hard and they didn’t was to rouse themselves. I know a lot are poor players but I really think a major factor is what’s going on in their heads. It really needs to be addressed by Benitez, they have to change the way they are thinking. Like I say I know it can be tough when the crowd are getting restless and no doubt there’s some idiots who go purely to have a whinge which is pathetic, but there’s always support bubbling away in te gallowgate end and today they were playing with the weight of the world on their shoulders from the beginning, when there wasn’t any crowd dissent. They should be puffing their chests out walking onto the pitch as a matter of personal pride and ambition. If they find it hard to play in front of a big crowd, what hope and ambition do hey have to progress as a footballer? Would they turn down a move to a top club because it’d too much?

He was moping around sulking last season with his head down showing little enthusiasm. It was a depressing situation to be in last season so I hoped he simply got sucked into that as a young lad, which is still poor. Yet last night - fresh start, positivity from everyone - he was caught on his heels, looked as slow as anything and was only animated when he was complaining to the ref about not getting a foul. I know it's only one game and the odds are he will improve but I do think he needs to give his head a shake and re-asses his attitude. When he first came he was fearless and enthusiastic, buzzing around everywhere and encouraging his teammates playing with a smile on his face. That hasn't been seen for a while now and we can't wait any longer as there's simply no time to waste.

The players couldn't handle the pressure of a relegation battle last season and last night played like they couldn't handle the pressure of being favourites to win the league... Seriously they need to find some balls from somewhere or piss off, it's a game of football not a life or death situation, just play with freedom without thinking man! Do you want to play at the highest level or not because going off that performance if Man Utd or Arsenal suddenly came in for any of our players they'd turn around and say 'thanks for the offer but no I don't fancy playing on a stage as big as that, what with the pressure and all... '.

His 'attempts' to stop crosses are an insult and his own crosses when he gets forward are just token gesture hopeful ones. Nearly everything he does just screams token gesture. Surprised Rafa hasn't been more ruthless, he'll get caught out time and time again and it'll cost us, please tout him around and let him be someone else's problem ASAP IMO.

Diame would be a better option for no10 at the mo, Perez's form just carried on from last season tonight, his anticipation was terrible, was always caught on his heels, looked a different player to the one we signed 2 years ago. Hopefully he finds that spark again over the course of the season.

He's a genuine leader with presence and commands respect. While he has no proper managerial experience these are qualities which are part of being a good manager. Yes he would have to prove other things, but he'd have these traits to build on and I'd also like to think he wouldn't accept being treat like a mug by those above.

John Carver

Think you need to take some deep breaths as per instructions from Souness myself like and give him 5 years no matter what happens.

If a few weeks ago they wanted to hire McClaren I don't see why that wouldn't still be the case, especially that now he's available for free. Under the condition that top man JC stays as assistant of course.

Do you trust your source? Sadly, yes. Meeting at 10am at training ground apparently. Where did he get this info from? Did he say? Can you give anymore information on this mate? I don't know where he gets the info from, but he always posts the team sheet the day before the game and is always right. Like I say, I hope to god he is wrong or on a wind-up. Cheers.

Do you trust your source? Sadly, yes. Meeting at 10am at training ground apparently. Where did he get this info from? Did he say? Can you give anymore information on this mate?

Me too.

The most they may do IMO is assure him he will be kept on as assistant and inform him they will be looking to appoint a new head coach but if they can't bring someone in that in they deem suitable for the position then he has the job.

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