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Hi guys!
Couldn't sleep last night, and just started to think of a list of potensial players we can buy now/or in the summer. Feel free to comment, and give me your opinions. Also please state how much you think we'd have to pay:
How many of these you actually seen play?
Hi
Obviously not all of them, but I've seen quite a few. Some of the players I've just heard about through friends, and if I am to believe what they say, these players are good, and will improve us.
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Hi guys!
Couldn't sleep last night, and just started to think of a list of potensial players we can buy now/or in the summer. Feel free to comment, and give me your opinions. Also please state how much you think we'd have to pay:
Goalkeepers:
Jussi Jaaskelainen
Vincent Enyeama
Oscar Ustari
Ochoa
Benoit Costil
Igor Akinfeev
Tim Wiese
Defenders
Armand Traore
Giorgio Chiellini
Per Mertesacker
Naldo
Pablo (At. Madrid)
Miguel Veloso
Cristian Zaccardo
Fabricio Coloccini
Vincent Kompany
Nicky shorey
Urby Emanuelson
Jacques Faty
Jeremy Mathieu
Lucio (Bayern)
Gonzalo Pineda
Petri Pesanen (how good are these last two IRL?)
Eduardo Ratinho
Oleg Husyev
Darijo Srna
Christian Pander
Defensive Midfielders
Javier Mascherano
Jean II Makoun
Fernanodo (Bordeaux)
Ayila Yussuf
Freddy Guarin
Midfielder
Jeremy Toulalan
Tim Borowski
Lucho Gonzalez
Christian Ledesma
Stephan Appiah
Lucas Biglia
Luka Modric
Rafael van der Vaart
Diego (Werder Bremen)
Samir Nasri
Juan R . Riquelme
Riccardo Montolivo
Ricardo Quaresma
Rafael Sobis
Jeremy Menez
Cani
Kim Kallström
Fernando Belluschi
Jonathan de Guzman
Jefferson Farfan
Arouca
Thiago Nevez
Yoann Gouffran
Luis Jimenez
Lulinha
Per Ciljan Skjelbred
Strikers
Defoe
Berbatov
Adrian Mutu
Jimmy Briand
Karim Benzema
G. Pazzini
Dean Ashton
Huntelaar
Palacio
Edison Cavani
Caesar Delgado
A. Kerzahkov
Okey, that's it. A Nice and long list that I've written of 3 A4 pages *puh*... Maybe Alfonso Alves should be on that list too. Didn't include the likes of Carrick and Deco because they are already mentioned.
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get Pazzini in! He was brilliant in the U21 game when he scored the hat-trick.
And for all the FM boffins, yup he's a bit of a legend on there too.
will he make an instant impact though? In KK terms that is..
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---------------Given-----------------
Hutton--Taylor--Naldo--Enrique
-------------De Rossi---------------
SWP------V. Der Vaart----Zoggy
--------Huntelaar---Martins------
Hutton £8m
Naldo £10m
De Rossi £15m
SWP £12m
VDV £13m
Huntelaar £12m
£70m - Sorted
Naldo and van Der Vaart - maybe (atleast those I agree with)
Think Huntelaar and SWP is a bit unrealistic...
+ we don't need Hutton as we have Beye.
Def. need a new left back, probably as backup for Enrique. But Enrique is still young and I'm unsure of playing him regular atm. will be the wises thing to do (hey, I might be wrong) other than that, I agree we need new wingers, and a couple strikers.
But.. if you were to name ... say 5 players to off-load, who would it be? Just like to hear your opinions...
Mine would be (not considering the kk effect or anything like that):
Carr
Ameobi
Geremi
Emre (Shoot me, but he's fairly inconsistent, and if we can get better we can afford letting him go abroad)
Barton
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Started to support Newcastle when Alan Shearer signed.
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Hangeland (Copenhagen) to Fulham. 40 mill NOK. Reported before?
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Something that has dampened my enthusiasm is that his last two jobs didn't go exactly according to plan.
It's OK, he's back home were he belongs now
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I'm listening to BBC Radio 5 Live on the web, and I got to say, there's so much optimism, passion, excitement and I don't know what around...
It's beautiful.. Wonderland:) Get tears in m eyes here! We need Shearer back, just to top it
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lol mackems.gif spot on! Great post
You love her, I love her, obviously everybody loves "her"...
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what do you mean ? how can I see the goals... can't find anything on BBC homepage.
TELEVISION.
Bugger! I'm sitting in Norway, no live coverage, no streams... how did we play, and what about atmosphere at the stadium?
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what do you mean ? how can I see the goals... can't find anything on BBC homepage.
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Brilliant!! Bring in Shearer as ass.man !!!
...Then go on and sack all those wasteful coaches, and bring in qualified people..
... Run CCleaner on the entire squad, and we are good to go!
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Keegan / Shearer
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Keegans our man
not sure of that either, but it would be a much easyer appointment in my eyes! question is if he still got it?
Joda, Keegan og Shearer har det
( yes, Keegan and Shearer has what it takes) As proven before under Keegan, Robson and later Roeder/Shearer, having a manager that bleeds B and W is the most important. -
Keegan / Shearer
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I knew this was coming from the core, if you want to discuss this personally you can PM or leave it out.
This has nothing to do with me being impatient - not at all - I've been patient ever since I became supporter. Which is some years now (See earlier posts)
Instead, I'm rather disappointed and shock tbh, that it is possible to run a club the way it has been done... and it looks like it is gonna continue.
Mocking me does no good.
If any of you replying to my post have supported the club for some time, you'd understand that my frustration is a result of years of incidences - and not Sam getting the boot.
I'd like to see Mort/Ashley's next move now, because it will show their true ambitions. All the talk about consistency and stability
Better be good, f***ing awesome or we'll be in the same old run...
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Hmm...
what to say, what to say... I'm in a bit of a shock here...Well, ON THE BRIGHT SIDE: Finally, I get to see Mort/Ashley TRUE ambitions !! I've been excited ever since the club was bought --> "what's next?"
If they go on to hire a british manager - I'm out
The only thing that can keep me supporting this club ATM is if they bring in a TOP MANAGER...
ANYTHING else will make Newcastle United F.C. lose 1 supporter.
Pretty much sums everything up - I'm fed up with this 'Dramaqueen' stuff at this club - it's pathetic.
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Thank you for a somewhat long and constructive post. Always nice to see good old loyal fans around. I can't defend other people's views and opinions, but I can tell you mine. Being a foreigner, coming from Norway, I started to support Newcastle because Alan Shearer signed for you. Back in 1994 when he was playing for Blackburn, his side went to Norway during the summer to play against the Norwegian side Vaalerenga (Vålerenga). This was actually a big attraction of the famous Norway Cup, which is played every year at Ekebergsletta close to Oslo. I was lucky enough to personally shake his hand, and talk to him for a couple of minutes after the game. Later on that evening, at the age of 10 (still not knowing what EPL was), I were to decide which team to support in England. The final choice became Alan Shearer and Blackburn, with Man Utd on a good second place (Man Utd does not have a place anymore
) The rest, well.. it's history..I've never been in Newcastle, never seen a live game, but I see almost every match the team is playing on TV ... the rest I pick up from internet forums and news....My best moment's got to be the Kelloggs commercial with Keegan and Newcasle
, and the worst is sacking Sir Bobby Robson (so ashamed) :-[.After the takeover, I honestly expected us to do what other takeover-clubs do (like man city and my "Swedish neighbour" Sven Göran) buy and transform the club - totally. Some part of me actually expected us to do a Chelsea - which today would have suited me well. But that didn't happen.
Instead we were going another way, buy clever and buy long-term, now... how can any of you say we have done that? Yes, we have 2-3 good signings this summer (faye, beye and enrique), but it's this 'other way' I don't understand. I don't think Man City has just splashed the cash playing Russian Rullette - Sven Göran has proven he can rebuild a club given just part of the summer (even coming in later than Allardyce).
Futher, one can draw a comparsion between Sam Allardyce and Joey Barton with the headline : You get what you pay for. Most Newcastle fans want attacking (almost gung-ho) football with fast, technical players dribbling the oppositions butt off in true Asprilla style - Allardyce does not have such a working philosophy. You clearly see that from the players he have brought in (trying to stabilize - yes but not aiming to play attracting and attacking football). Moving over to Joey Barton believing he would stay out of trouble was nothing but hope, you think Vinny Jones would turn into a good boy if we brought him from Wimbledon? Nope, again, you gt what you pay for.
I'm pretty undecided as to wether Sam is the man to turn things around. I have no doubt what so ever that he is a very very good manager, and that he can handle pressure. In fact he, as anyone else, can be successful. And I think he will turn things around at our club given time, but he will do it the way he is confident of doing it - and that's where my uncertainty about Sam really is. I don't want us to play boring football with long balls (In true Egil "Drillo" Olsen style) Hoofing the ball up to a tiny Oba Martins and an unfit Owen, who both clearly aren't shaped to reach the "Crouch height", and then hope for the best - or look at it another way : So Sam can later on comment on SSN - "We pumped the ball up, unfortunatley Martins and Owen weren't there to get it, but we defended well and just conceeded / didn't conceed". My point is - you get what you pay for and people do their job in accordance to their abilities, their experience - in short they way they are confident of doing it. Just the way you do our every-day-job, right ? You do it the way you know it worked yesterday.
People here complain about the way we are playing, the way things have turned since the summer - it's a transformation - a transformation into the Allardyce style (see above - the way he knows he has succeeded in the past). And I think that the players we see that don't play well, is the players that will leave sooner or later. Not because they aren't playing well, but because they can't adapt to Sam's style.
So will a different, and maybe more reputated manager, do any better? Well, for once, if *he get the financial backup needed, and in truth that's expected from Ashley. Maybe. We might build ourself a team of stars.
Will we see a different style of play? Certainly.
Are we guaranteed success? Not at all. But logically speaking - a more reputated manager will have greater experience handling different aspects and his successess in the past should give him a better chance of succeeding now.
*he and him = referring to a new manager.
In other words, I highly doubt Sam Allardyce is the man to turn Newcastle into the playing side most people would like to see. But he will succeed at the things he's good at.
Thanks for reading. *puh*
Well said imo.
In terms of entertainment, which is what we would all hope for, Sam's unlikely to deliver - short or long term. I believe the majority of the current negativity has come about from that realisation. In the summer everyone was on a high, the majority at least. Gone was the old regime, new owners and a new manager - positive transformations were the order of all expectations.
It's the football that has crashed everyone back to earth. There would be nowhere near the amount of negativity if we had just a few more points on board from watching good games.
People sometimes refer to Sam's "previous success". What he actually did was an OK/decent job at a small Premiership team.
However with the exception of Keegan and SBR the football we've played this season is about as good or bad as anything else we've served up in the top flight since the sixties. Joe Harvey and Cox had their moments - but mainly in the second tier.
Sam's got the job right now so I'll support him. If a new Keegan or Sir Bobby exists and would come to us for the right reasons then I'd support them too.
Thank you GypsyKing for reading my post:)
Benwell Lad: Thanks for replying. Well... you said : People sometimes refer to Sam's "previous success". What he actually did was an OK/decent job at a small Premiership team.
People doesn't only sometimes do this. People do it all the time. It's been done in another thread were people rated his successors based on their CVs and previous achievements. It's done on a daily basis in the business world too. If I were to appoint you, I would judge you based on what you have achieved in the past, right?
You are probably right about the way we play, with exception of Keegan and Robson - however, I'm concerned about Sam's long-term plan and style of play.
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Thank you for a somewhat long and constructive post. Always nice to see good old loyal fans around. I can't defend other people's views and opinions, but I can tell you mine. Being a foreigner, coming from Norway, I started to support Newcastle because Alan Shearer signed for you. Back in 1994 when he was playing for Blackburn, his side went to Norway during the summer to play against the Norwegian side Vaalerenga (Vålerenga). This was actually a big attraction of the famous Norway Cup, which is played every year at Ekebergsletta close to Oslo. I was lucky enough to personally shake his hand, and talk to him for a couple of minutes after the game. Later on that evening, at the age of 10 (still not knowing what EPL was), I were to decide which team to support in England. The final choice became Alan Shearer and Blackburn, with Man Utd on a good second place (Man Utd does not have a place anymore
) The rest, well.. it's history..I've never been in Newcastle, never seen a live game, but I see almost every match the team is playing on TV ... the rest I pick up from internet forums and news....My best moment's got to be the Kelloggs commercial with Keegan and Newcasle
, and the worst is sacking Sir Bobby Robson (so ashamed) :-[.After the takeover, I honestly expected us to do what other takeover-clubs do (like man city and my "Swedish neighbour" Sven Göran) buy and transform the club - totally. Some part of me actually expected us to do a Chelsea - which today would have suited me well. But that didn't happen.
Instead we were going another way, buy clever and buy long-term, now... how can any of you say we have done that? Yes, we have 2-3 good signings this summer (faye, beye and enrique), but it's this 'other way' I don't understand. I don't think Man City has just splashed the cash playing Russian Rullette - Sven Göran has proven he can rebuild a club given just part of the summer (even coming in later than Allardyce).
Futher, one can draw a comparsion between Sam Allardyce and Joey Barton with the headline : You get what you pay for. Most Newcastle fans want attacking (almost gung-ho) football with fast, technical players dribbling the oppositions butt off in true Asprilla style - Allardyce does not have such a working philosophy. You clearly see that from the players he have brought in (trying to stabilize - yes but not aiming to play attracting and attacking football). Moving over to Joey Barton believing he would stay out of trouble was nothing but hope, you think Vinny Jones would turn into a good boy if we brought him from Wimbledon? Nope, again, you gt what you pay for.
I'm pretty undecided as to wether Sam is the man to turn things around. I have no doubt what so ever that he is a very very good manager, and that he can handle pressure. In fact he, as anyone else, can be successful. And I think he will turn things around at our club given time, but he will do it the way he is confident of doing it - and that's where my uncertainty about Sam really is. I don't want us to play boring football with long balls (In true Egil "Drillo" Olsen style) Hoofing the ball up to a tiny Oba Martins and an unfit Owen, who both clearly aren't shaped to reach the "Crouch height", and then hope for the best - or look at it another way : So Sam can later on comment on SSN - "We pumped the ball up, unfortunatley Martins and Owen weren't there to get it, but we defended well and just conceeded / didn't conceed". My point is - you get what you pay for and people do their job in accordance to their abilities, their experience - in short they way they are confident of doing it. Just the way you do our every-day-job, right ? You do it the way you know it worked yesterday.
People here complain about the way we are playing, the way things have turned since the summer - it's a transformation - a transformation into the Allardyce style (see above - the way he knows he has succeeded in the past). And I think that the players we see that don't play well, is the players that will leave sooner or later. Not because they aren't playing well, but because they can't adapt to Sam's style.
So will a different, and maybe more reputated manager, do any better? Well, for once, if *he get the financial backup needed, and in truth that's expected from Ashley. Maybe. We might build ourself a team of stars.
Will we see a different style of play? Certainly.
Are we guaranteed success? Not at all. But logically speaking - a more reputated manager will have greater experience handling different aspects and his successess in the past should give him a better chance of succeeding now.
*he and him = referring to a new manager.
In other words, I highly doubt Sam Allardyce is the man to turn Newcastle into the playing side most people would like to see. But he will succeed at the things he's good at.
Thanks for reading. *puh*
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f*** this team and f*** this manager >
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you guys see, letting Sam continue is gonna kill both speed and creativity... sorry, but I can't accept that... it is not the style I support.
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this newcastle team is patethic.. belongs in championship... howay the champions(hip)... going for the relegation zone in EPL this season.
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The ref can go and h**g himself. >
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football manager?I don't play that game
needless to say, the list is extensive, and there wouldn't be anything to lose by scouting these players. That's just my opinion. If you browse the internet; you will find that a lot of these players are attracted by big clubs:)