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Very much one problem at a time and the PL is a much more immediate and stringent problem, but a reminder that even if there's a sweeping victory for City there are still FMV rules in UEFA's handbook.

That's based on Dr. Rob Wilson's quotes: "If City win this APT case, and it allows APTs in the Premier League, then what we’ll see is some massive sponsorship deals signed almost immediately by Newcastle to boost their transfer budget for next summer. It wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest if they spend over £300m on pure player transfers." That would mean, very roughly speaking, that we'd add about £150m in revenue instantly. I'm not sure how anyone lands at these assumptions.

It's from the latest Douglas article. I hate these Twitter accounts.

My assumption is if there's any grey area in the ruling or if it was on a technicality then they will do everything they can to introduce a new rule on the right side of whatever line is drawn. Hopefully it's a resounding City victory combined with a lessening appetite for lawsuits.

Yeah, just saying the fact there’s a meeting doesn’t tell us anything about the outcome.

This is a regularly scheduled shareholder meeting.

Imagine being Ipswich though. Welcome to the Premier League, you'll get a couple million less due to our legal fees.

What sad Arsenal fan made an Arsenal - City rivalry Wiki page?

That’s only £11m each for Liverpool, Man United, Spurs, and Arsenal. They can afford it.

Yeah, I'd love to see: Pope, Trippier, Schar, Burn/Kelly, Tino, Tonali, Bruno, Willock, Gordon, Isak, Barnes But if Miggy is coming in (which I'm not totally opposed to) I'd want Barnes to keep his spot on the left.

Here's a fun quirk -- we're at Stamford Bridge the weekend before the R4 ties. We play Arsenal at home the following weekend, so a tough week. But here's what Chelsea's fixture list will looks like if we beat Wimbledon... Over a 13 day span: Liverpool (a), Panathinaikos (a), Newcastle (h), Newcastle (a) and Man United (a).

Totally agree. Great draw, great timing. And revenge for last season. Anyone at home really. Anyone that isn't City, Arsenal, or Liverpool even better.

We'll probably be in the mid-40s for 2023/24 with the CL games and stuff. We still have some season ticket holders on Ashley era price freezes. We could probably say £50m is possible in a good year (good meaning extra home games from cups and/or Europe) in the current stadium. But Liverpool have now added another 8k or so seats from these numbers. Liverpool were at £87m in 2021/22 so with the extra seats and a season with extra games they are basically at £100m. City are adding another 7k (plus a hotel, fan zone, and museum). Chelsea are exploring options and Man United is probably going even bigger. Newcastle can't and shouldn't have London ticket prices, which to me is just another argument for more capacity given the interest/demand. 8-10k seats on top of the Gallowgate won't really do much to close the gap and probably doesn't make fiscal sense.

You can ignore the quotes from the likes of him, architects, etc. All fluff and filler.

All 2022/23 numbers: - Our matchday revenue was £38m - I'm not sure but would guess <£6m - Matchday income for the big 6 is as follows: Man United, £136m Tottenham, £118m (£45m in 2017) Arsenal, £103m Liverpool, £80m (£51m in 2014) Chelsea, £70m City, £72m (£47m in 2014) - Sunderland attributed £8.4m of revenue (57% of their total commercial revenue) to "conferencing and banqueting." That includes concerts, a Lionnesses game, and college graduation. Remember that the SoL has even worse corporate hospitality than SJP. Capacity does go up to about 60k for concerts though.

Incognito window should get you past the paywall. Aside from the Reuben related board member incoming that I mentioned above, these are probably the key sections:

Seems good to me, especially this part: If everything needs to provide a return on investment then there's a nagging worry that it may be difficult to make the math work on the stadium, but it probably starts to look a lot better if you tie it to other commercial development plus the sponsorships it would bring. More influence from the Reuben's side of the house on infrastructure related things is very good news IMO.

We have to have at least one of the following things to be genuinely competitive with the top 6 on an annual basis: 1) A stadium that allows us to grow our match day revenue to something in the neighborhood of £100m per year (today's dollars) and also provides a path to add £50-75m+ in commercial revenue that's tied to the stadium. 2) A genuinely world class first team and academy facility. The first team part is to attract quality players (this is more important than the stadium to a player) and the academy part to lure and develop the best young talent in the north of England and beyond. The academy has to both produce first team players and generate regular player sales to make up for the lack of revenue elsewhere. I guess we could try to thread the needle with more moderate gains on #1 and #2, but I suspect we'd be chasing the pack forever. Without one of those things then you are entirely reliant on recruitment having a better than average hit rate and coaching overachieving, neither one of which can be expected to occur regularly.

I look forward to never seeing him play in black and white.

They are a guaranteed top 4/6 finisher. Everyone with European aspirations would love to see them blown away with points deductions. It's saying "if they are found guilty then do not be lenient."

That burden of proof being on the club is a pain though. Like I don't even know if we get the SELA deal through under these rules. I'm not even trying to guess what might change if City are successful though because, in theory, multiple layers could get peeled back. If the PL wins it will be pretty depressing as no one else is either big enough or interested enough to challenge anything.

That Wyness stuff is so dumb. He was on a podcast where he mentioned that Henry and PIF were together to negotiate PGA/LIV stuff and also that there have been some comments from NUFC recently about the rules / ceiling, etc. And the rest is very much 2+2=13.

You could make a pretty strong argument that the single biggest failure of club leadership (this applies to Eales, Eddie*, Mitchell, and anyone in the comms department) in the last few months is the lack of understanding at how important their messaging is. Words matter. (*maybe not Eddie as I think he knew exactly what he was doing; it was just maybe a little misguided in his case)

I've been wondering if we might see Kelly at CB at some point, and maybe even Burn at LB. That'll be a fun day.

Can't wait for Hope's version. CIVIL WAR INTENSIFIES FOLLOWING ARMISTICE TALKS -- Sources at Darsley Park have shared that Howe did not hold the door open for Mitchell upon exiting the building. It is not clear if the head coach's hand slipped, perhaps moist from spending the morning on the grass, or if this was retribution for the Director's failure to land this summer's top target. Others have questioned if the squeaky front door is a sign of PIF's wavering commitment to United.