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I'm expecting a big summer in terms of the club moving some things forward. If we get to September and we haven't announced a training shirt sponsor and other corporate partners, and we haven't gotten an update on the stadium and/or training ground planning then I'm going to have more questions for our owners and corporate leaders than our manager.

The UEFA website has the rankings, which update each day after games. And more detail here: https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/ccoef2024.html

England is currently 3rd. Last week was not good. Unless Italy loses like three teams this week (Napoli, Inter, and Fiorentina or Atalanta) then they are well on their way to top 2. 1. Italy, 16.571 (27.719 max possible) 2. Germany, 15.500 (23.094) 3. England, 14.625 (24.000) 4. France, 14.416 (21.250) 5. Spain, 13.437 (19.437) Arsenal, West Ham (especially as it's h2h with Germany), and Villa are huge this week.

Trying to diminish the club's only trophy half a century. You really know how to kick a board when it's down.

The way our season has gone I'm convinced that if we finish 7th then England will miss out on the extra CL place so we'll be in the Conference League. But if we don't finish 7th then England will get the extra place.

Relatively low for their revenue. I was only commenting on why they are generally fine for FFP, not the North London dick measuring contest.

Genuinely don't know if this is a wind up or not, but fair play on the honesty.

Yeah I don't know what's possible. It's going to have to be extremely creative. On the second point the only good answer I have is time. It takes time and results to build the type of brand required for these commercial numbers, and there's obviously a bit of a catch 22 in there.

Liverpool remained at Anfield but found a way to double their matchday revenue via multiple expansions. I imagine we'll stay put if we can think can accomplish the same. But if you do that you definitely need a path to over £200m (today's money) in commercial revenue. I think we're well on our way to £100m, but doubling from there is a whole different ballgame.

I'm pretty sure if someone offers £100m we're going to accept it. And it's probably the right decision, but I will hate every second of it.

While starting to rise more significantly now, their wages have been very low (relatively speaking).

Is this really the narrative you're going with?

Liverpool's 2022/23 accounts are out and for the first time ever their commercial revenue exceeded their broadcast revenue (in a season they made the CL QF). Massive gains over the last decade going from £104m in 2014 to £273m in 2023. Only £30m behind Man United now. Their wages were £123m more than our revenue. Their commercial revenue alone exceeds our total revenue, which is also true of both Manchester clubs. Their matchday revenue of £80m (£87m in 2021/22) is essentially equal to our matchday (£38m) + commercial (£47m).

I just recently rewatched some of that and one of my main takeaways was there's absolutely no chance there's any thoughts about Eddie's job. They all love him, but more importantly they recognized how against the odds last season was (honestly more than most on here have ever given him credit for) and how difficult this season could be (and that's before everything going wrong). Yasir could definitely be a bit of a wild card, but overall there's a very level headed group of people running the club.

We should still finish in the top 10, but the reason I'm mostly writing it off is I think it's just the reality of the situation. We're still missing key players and most of our first XI is in desperate need of a summer break. It's the most obvious explanation for why we just look different.

A vote yesterday was essentially a vote for "the current rules are dumb; let's figure out and vote on new ones." And the high level replacement being kicked around is basically UEFA's rules with transparent penalties that start with fines, not point deductions. Depending on the exact implementation it's entirely possible we end up voting no in June, but you can see why everyone (bar one) voted yes to move this process forward.

You mean the Chelsea with about to be two straight years of no CL football who we finished way ahead of last year and are competing with this year? I look forward to the benchmark for our next deal...

Not really, especially when you add Tonali too.

The only thing I'm genuinely annoyed about is how he's handled Gordon and a few others in the last month or so. The rest is kind of 'whatever, see you in August.'

Agree with this. All things considered that was the most frustrating and disappointing 90 minutes of the season.

We've given maybe the only truly dangerous player on their team two free shots at goal.

He didn't have to play 300 minutes the last week of Feb.

There was a time we had no choice, but there were chances to rest Gordon in the last few weeks and we didn't.

Not happy about this.

The concerning thing is the non-contact part. Really hope it's not an ACL or something that stretches into next season.