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Won't you miss him, when he's gone? Not at all. He has been indefensible for his errors for best part of 2014

I've voted win. It's a heart vs head thing. Unfortunately, I'm done using my head for this month. Would have to say I think it will be 2-0 to them though. Then 2-1 vs Hull, to the Tigers. Bye, bye Pardspew.

We're Yellow. Team D that is. Like the sunshine, we will shine our light upon the tournament. Team C can be Red like Jimmy Savilles bell-end after a morning at the nursery.

Anyone good at hacking? Maybe we could get the big screens high-jacked with FUCK OFF ASHLEY on them.

The issue is that we are willing to be a mid-table, nothing side with no relevance or desire to be relevant. We don't want glory and we do want balance sheets to look healthy. If we won the league through 38 victories of 1-0 where the goal had been pumped up root 1 and we won 1-0 I wouldn't give a flying f*** as a Newcastle United fan. Well fair enough then, we'll never win the league under Ashley obviously. As a short-term measure though, I'd be quite happy to get another manager and get the most out of the players we have. It's not like Ashley is going to instruct the manager to start losing once we look like finishing too high in the league. Aye, and I agree we should get rid of him. However, what decent manager would want to come here and work under Ashley's conditions? Out of curiosity where is that quote from? Also, if Neil Warnock is the type of manager we appeal to then we really don't have many options, do we.

Team D is gonna fuck yo bitch asses up!

TBF I think you's aren't really paying attention to the fact I completely agree with you on the Pardew front. All I am getting at is that you can only blame him for things within his control and that Ashley is the bigger issue...

The issue is that we are willing to be a mid-table, nothing side with no relevance or desire to be relevant. We don't want glory and we do want balance sheets to look healthy. If we won the league through 38 victories of 1-0 where the goal had been pumped up root 1 and we won 1-0 I wouldn't give a flying f*** as a Newcastle United fan. Well fair enough then, we'll never win the league under Ashley obviously. As a short-term measure though, I'd be quite happy to get another manager and get the most out of the players we have. It's not like Ashley is going to instruct the manager to start losing once we look like finishing too high in the league. Aye, and I agree we should get rid of him. However, what decent manager would want to come here and work under Ashley's conditions? What conditions? Lack of investment for the most part, but aside from that constant disruptions in terms of the relationship between the club and its fans. Ashley is responsible for that. If the disruptions and PR catastrophe's didn't happen then everyone would still be buying into the merchandising amongst other things. The people have a hatred for Ashley, and rightly so. Without that, the club would have more money to progress. The whole situation has been created by Ashley and his cronies and they should realise that and do something about it. They could have done all sorts in recent years to build that bridge but frankly they have done fuck all but widen the gap. They don't give a fuck about us or our feelings and they have made that known.

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The issue is that we are willing to be a mid-table, nothing side with no relevance or desire to be relevant. We don't want glory and we do want balance sheets to look healthy. If we won the league through 38 victories of 1-0 where the goal had been pumped up root 1 and scrambled in I wouldn't give a flying f*** as a Newcastle United fan. Teams like that don't win titles though. It's a daft hypothetical scenario. The team who wins the title is almost always the one with the best goal difference too. It's not daft, it's just to accentuate that I would rather we were successful and had glory than we entertained as a mid-table team.

Fair enough on all of that. As for the bit I have highlighted - that for me is part of the larger issue (and that's not a dig at you) but everyone is getting that way, and the further this goes on, the lesser a club Newcastle United will become. We can protest all we like about Ashley, but unless we can hand him a few hundred million, or withdraw our collective financiall support of the club, he is going nowhere and we have to accept that as shitty as things are. The manager, however, we can challenge. We can make his position untenable and that's what we should all do until he gets sacked or resigns. It might not result in the football improving or more points on the board and better league table placings, but we cannot stand still and simply accept what is happening to our team under Pardew which is basically awful football, huge losses, derby day embarrassments, good footballers playing like pub players and a pointlessness to everything. If we accept this, we deserve this. I don't accept it and that's why I've long stopped going and back this sack Pardew thing 100%, we all should until the c*** is no longer our problem. Aye!

This is what I find frustrating, we have everything in place to be a super-club. The squad and coaching team just need investing in with the right philosophy applied.

Fair enough on all of that. As for the bit I have highlighted - that for me is part of the larger issue (and that's not a dig at you) but everyone is getting that way, and the further this goes on, the lesser a club Newcastle United will become.

The issue is that we are willing to be a mid-table, nothing side with no relevance or desire to be relevant. We don't want glory and we do want balance sheets to look healthy. If we won the league through 38 victories of 1-0 where the goal had been pumped up root 1 and we won 1-0 I wouldn't give a flying f*** as a Newcastle United fan. Well fair enough then, we'll never win the league under Ashley obviously. As a short-term measure though, I'd be quite happy to get another manager and get the most out of the players we have. It's not like Ashley is going to instruct the manager to start losing once we look like finishing too high in the league. Aye, and I agree we should get rid of him. However, what decent manager would want to come here and work under Ashley's conditions?

Your point has validity but Freddy Shepherd being s**** didn't stop me enjoying Bobby Robson's team. It's extraordinary to say that Pardew is a "small part" of the problem. Poor and lazy comparison. Freddy Shephard always invested in the club. Not with his own money but he made sure we spent and wanted us to compete. If he landed god managers - we would be brilliant and that only happened once under him. But he tried. Your ambition is your limit. FS wanted us to be among Europe's elite - we never consolidated that position but that was his aim. Ashley's ambitions involve SD and midtable finishes. We'll never do better than that with him in charge. He'll sell the star players that got him there every season he can. We could hire Klopp and he would just take the £££ from all the players until the well ran-out. Well. let's push for a better manager first, and then see if that is indeed the case. It's the most sensible first step. Not convinced it would be as straight forward as you say. I'm all for Pardew going but the most important man in any organisation is the individual in-charge of long term strategy and ambition, planning and finance. This isn't football manager. You need the powerful people to agree with any managers vision. We won't ever have that under Ashley.

The issue is that we are willing to be a mid-table, nothing side with no relevance or desire to be relevant. We don't want glory and we do want balance sheets to look healthy. If we won the league through 38 victories of 1-0 where the goal had been pumped up root 1 and scrambled in I wouldn't give a flying f*** as a Newcastle United fan.

Your point has validity but Freddy Shepherd being s**** didn't stop me enjoying Bobby Robson's team. It's extraordinary to say that Pardew is a "small part" of the problem. If Mike Ashley walked away tomorrow and Pardew was left in charge, the football and results wouldn't improve one jot, and that's ultimately what we're all interested in. Plus it's Pardew who is responsible for giving away two of our prize assets. An owner buys a manager two French internationals and he handles them so badly that he ends up basically giving them away for nowt... How can that possibly be the owner's fault (apart from giving the manager the job in the first place, obviously)? That is nonsense for me. The owner controls his assets not the manager. We bought them for a price, they did what they can do, increased their value, were arguably managed well / didn't require managing and were subsequently sold on the belief that we could make a stronger squad from that money. Mike Ashley is running the club in that fashion. We are a selling club and our key players will continue to be sold should the "customer" wish to pay the named price. This didn't just happen with these two, it has happened consistently throughout Ashley's reign. We all talk about "the spine of a team" or "building a team around key players" but how can a manager do that or try to do that when his spine or key players are sold as soon as they represent any form of profit from their initial price. Cabaye and Debuchy had fuck all to do with Pardew and to slap that on him is ridiculous in my opinion. The difference with Freddy Shepherd and his twattery being that a) Bobby Robson was on of the greatest football managers of all time and b) Freddy Shepherd invested in the club, to a point where it could have brought it to it's knees if it didn't stop. At least we could enjoy the football then simply because the investment was there and we were allowed to dream, now we're not and we're ridiculed by our own club and the media outlets if we even wish to finish in the top 7 or try to win a cup which even S*nderland can fucking get to the final of. They are two entirely different scenarios and to use them in this context isn't fair or right. As for your remark about Ashley fucking off and the results would stay the same, I totally agree and that's why I also think Pardew should be sacked. All I am getting at is that Pardew going doesn't necessarily fix the issue either. It might go a long way to fixing it, and I am sure we are all willing to take that gamble, but to fix the issue completely Ashley and all his cronies would be fucked off.

Why are there so many fucking mongs out there? There should be a balance / counter-argument made but nevertheless it would still result in the same outcome and that is that he should be sacked.

I will play. Won't be out at all though. #Unsociable

I know of Poles and Italians who get food sent over here from home. Not everything, but just a few ingredients and what-not.

I agree with this, but then what happens when we spend season after season being nothing but league fillers because the problem actually isn't the management so much as it is the ownership? We have never properly tried to oust Ashley because simply; we are fucking useless as a fanbase at organising any form of ongoing protest.

Ah fuck... :jesuswept: So he isn't likely to die yet?

Pardew is one of the biggest problems by far. That's a pretty short sighted way of thinking for me like. We have consistently sold key players, not invested money and had bad feeling around the club since Ashley came. Our squad now is probably the weakest it has ever been under Ashley's tenure in term's of it's capability in the Premier League. Yes, Pardew is shit, and yes he should be sacked but the fat cunt will only place the next man in the same situation and it will be equally as difficult and will waste even more of the fat cunts money that he will later want back. Let's face it, if Ashley goes, the likelihood is that the manager goes too...

That's my point - standard Brit abroad behaviour I'd love if a player or manager went abroad, learned the language, got into the culture etc. Instead of flying sausage and mash out on a chartered flight and speaking with a weird, Dutch accent (McClaren). More a general viewpoint than one aimed at ol' shithead shola. I'm sure lots of players probably do that when they come here too. Simply because our food is s***. It's got nowt to do with the Brit' thing. I can see why you feel that way like, but he's not alone and it isn't just 'us'. Yeah fair enough "when in Rome..." is sort of my life motto and I can't understand it when people insist on recreating their home life in a different place.

I see where you're coming from, but at the same time Pardew is only a small part of the problem.