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What are you on? Have you just woke up from a 6 months coma, The Takeover, the big 6 project......Aye the Pl are Snow White. If PIF etc haven't provided what they need, then make a decision and say rejected because of x, y and z. Don't f***ing hide behind 'no decision has been made'. But how do you know the decision process is even structured like that? It could be a case of 'until you provide us with proof of X, Y and Z we can't approve the takeover'. 'We'll approve it when you provide this and that'. Therefore its not a formal rejection, its a case of the PL being willing if certain requirements are met, which as of yet haven't. Even if the approval process was on a Accept/Reject spectrum, rejecting it could terminate any legal/administrative progress that has been made up to that point. They bidders would essentially have to start the entire process at all. I can't see a logical reason as to why the PL wouldnt be in favour of a takeover if it met certain requirements. It goes completely again their interests. So the O&D test is not fit for purpose if the PL can just leave it hanging forever. By your logic, the consortium could come back many years in the future and say, here is the answer now and so please approve us. If you can't see that the PL not making a decision is the only way theycould stop the takeover then you need to start claiming benefits for your lack of eyesight! You're only absolutely certain about that because it fits into your narrative of the PL digging their heels. Its more than a distinct possibility that the sovereign wealth fund trying to buy the club haven't met set specifications to pass a legitimate test and have been unwilling to co-operate further. You won't hear it though, because it's not what you want to hear. I am quite willing to hear it and would welcome it as it would provide clarity. However, for the PL process to allow a situation where they haven't made a decision and have no intention of making a decision is quite ludicrous. If the PL have asked for more details then it would be only natural for a response from the PL to say something like the following if PIF don't respond ' We can't continue with the O&D if you do not provide the information we ask for. If it is not provided within X days/weeks then the PL will have no alternative to reject the takeover based on an incomplete submission'. To ask for more information (if indeed they have) and then leave it open for 10 + weeks and not put a deadline on a reply.........absurd! They have. They've already said they need certain information for the takeover to proceed to the next stage. There doesn't need to be an unnecessary arbitrary deadline on any reply and they dont need to issue a rejection. They've asked for certain information, PIF have failed or are unwilling to provide it. What it could boil down to is whether their request is a legitimate one and within the specification of the O&D test.
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What are you on? Have you just woke up from a 6 months coma, The Takeover, the big 6 project......Aye the Pl are Snow White. If PIF etc haven't provided what they need, then make a decision and say rejected because of x, y and z. Don't f***ing hide behind 'no decision has been made'. But how do you know the decision process is even structured like that? It could be a case of 'until you provide us with proof of X, Y and Z we can't approve the takeover'. 'We'll approve it when you provide this and that'. Therefore its not a formal rejection, its a case of the PL being willing if certain requirements are met, which as of yet haven't. Even if the approval process was on a Accept/Reject spectrum, rejecting it could terminate any legal/administrative progress that has been made up to that point. They bidders would essentially have to start the entire process at all. I can't see a logical reason as to why the PL wouldnt be in favour of a takeover if it met certain requirements. It goes completely again their interests. So the O&D test is not fit for purpose if the PL can just leave it hanging forever. By your logic, the consortium could come back many years in the future and say, here is the answer now and so please approve us. If you can't see that the PL not making a decision is the only way theycould stop the takeover then you need to start claiming benefits for your lack of eyesight! You're only absolutely certain about that because it fits into your narrative of the PL digging their heels. Its more than a distinct possibility that the sovereign wealth fund trying to buy the club haven't met set specifications to pass a legitimate test and have been unwilling to co-operate further. You won't hear it though, because it's not what you want to hear.
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What are you on? Have you just woke up from a 6 months coma, The Takeover, the big 6 project......Aye the Pl are Snow White. If PIF etc haven't provided what they need, then make a decision and say rejected because of x, y and z. Don't f***ing hide behind 'no decision has been made'. But how do you know the decision process is even structured like that? It could be a case of 'until you provide us with proof of X, Y and Z we can't approve the takeover'. 'We'll approve it when you provide this and that'. Therefore its not a formal rejection, its a case of the PL being willing if certain requirements are met, which as of yet haven't. Even if the approval process was on a Accept/Reject spectrum, rejecting it could terminate any legal/administrative progress that has been made up to that point. They bidders would essentially have to start the entire process at all. I can't see a logical reason as to why the PL wouldnt be in favour of a takeover if it met certain requirements. It goes completely again their interests. Are you on the wind up ? If you can’t see a logical reason I fucking despair. Well howay then oracle. Explain to me why it makes any sort of business sense for the PL to block more income and growth in the league and why they haven't done it before? An answer that consists of more than 'muh corruption' or pasting the fucking tweets of known lunatic Burnsie into the thread if possible..
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What are you on? Have you just woke up from a 6 months coma, The Takeover, the big 6 project......Aye the Pl are Snow White. If PIF etc haven't provided what they need, then make a decision and say rejected because of x, y and z. Don't fucking hide behind 'no decision has been made'. But how do you know the decision process is even structured like that? It could be a case of 'until you provide us with proof of X, Y and Z we can't approve the takeover'. 'We'll approve it when you provide this and that'. Therefore its not a formal rejection, its a case of the PL being willing if certain requirements are met, which as of yet haven't. Even if the approval process was on a Accept/Reject spectrum, rejecting it could terminate any legal/administrative progress that has been made up to that point. They bidders would essentially have to start the entire process at all. I can't see a logical reason as to why the PL wouldnt be in favour of a takeover if it met certain requirements. It goes completely again their interests.
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Its an absolute mess like. I still think there is and always has been serious problems with the bid that simply haven't been addressed. There is no reason for the PL to not want more investment in one of their member clubs. More money, better players, a bigger club, a better product. Its totally counter intuitive for the PL to not want the takeover. The PL answer to their shareholders and ultimately a Saudi back NUFC would improve their product. There simply has to be serious issues with the bid or bidders. I don't buy that they're corrupt/in Qatar or the Big Sixes pocket either. For what reason? It would be cutting off their nose in spite of their face. As for NUFC fan related social media, its packed with absolute fucking chancers that care more about their content than the actual club. A lot of them would be happily to seriously mislead fans for a few extra subscribers or followers (I'm including journalists in that too). Mike Ashley could do whatever the fuck he likes and some of them would produce some award winning mental gymnastics to justify going to the match or buying from the club so they keep running their stupid accounts or barely listened to podcasts.
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Peak Guardian that article like.
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That @MoneyMikeAshley account is a funny one like. Obviously its spot on in all its utterances. Too on the ball to not be run by someone with a vested interest in NUFC, yet it started life as a Venkys account. It was @VenkysBlackburn in 2012, being retweeted only by Blackburn fans. Sometime in 2013 it changed and became @MoneyMikeAshley, it used to follow 41 people too, but now only Keith Bishops agency. By that time Blackburn had been relegated (and no longer in the medias eye) and the Sack Pardew campaign was in full force. In one of the early tweets it, it specifies that 'its a team effort', but the tweet before it is unavailable. Suggesting it wasn't originally just one person. Its weird one like. They're seemingly ITK, though very very vague but the fact that it wasnt set up originally as a Newcastle related account is strange. It could, of course have changed hands, but why would anyone wanting to parody Mike Ashley - with very specific, ears to the ground tweets take over a Venkys account?
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Sorry to post this blady fucking cunt of a bloke in here but this really is an unbelievable tweet from a professional journalist for a national newspaper. Outright winding fans up of the club he's supposed to report on. He's an absolute disgrace.
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I read and enjoy the vast majority of threads in the football section and most in the chat section. There's not one i'd really consider overwhelmingly bad, but the takeover thread really is the worst the worst thread ever created on this forum like
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Good job he didnt actually want a Zeus painting because thats Neptune.
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Being first in line to the hot new prospect in the next draft. And on that note, am I crazy for wondering if a big enough rift could make drafts possible in football? Now wondering whether they could implement a draft system for the new Euro league. Players available to sign choosing to 'declare' for the new league? yeah but that depends on finishing last. so if you can't reach the playoffs, then teams strive to finish last? Players and coaches are still trying to keep their jobs in a league with a high player turnover ratio due to the draft. Doesn't really make sense for players to lose on purpose so the team could draft their younger and cheaper replacement. Owner's would most likely love to see their team lose in a lost season but it's never that simple. Trading away your best players is basically the only option and even that doesn't always work. A draft would actually be great in football. It'll never happen in a million years though.
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So the proposal is basically a closed shop Champions League. It'll never get off the ground. A European Super League can only be a good thing tbh. A super sanitized, uncompetitive league for a tourists and corporate box wankers while we would hopefully see a rivitalization in the competitiveness of English domestic football. Theres a good chance it'd die on its arse anyway. Like Neesy said, who's going to give a fuck about Dortmund V Benfica in a glorified friendly. If you have no relegation and no qualification for a European tournament, the majoirty of teams would have nothing to play for most of the season. Its different in the PL. New teams every season. 6 European qualification places for two (soon to be 3) different european competitions and 3 relegation places theres more often than not, something to play for. There's plenty of narrative to be had. How much story can you create with the same 18 teams every season mostly with nowt to play for? Even if it was a success, why the fuck should I care? I'll still watch Newcastle along with thousands of others. Potentially in a more competitive league with qualification to a UEFA European Competition. Let them go, it might just be the best thing to happen to English football.
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Luke Edwards is an embarrassing excuse for a journalist Pathetic little worm. Cunt of a bloke.
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Newcastle United 1-4 Manchester United - 17/10/2020 - post match from p18
Doctor Zaius replied to Disco's topic in Football
Bet he won't blame his drinking buddy though. I dont think thats true of Shearer like. Dont think he'd be afraid to call it how he see's it, regardless of his relationship with Bruce. Stuck the boot in on MOTD. -
Wolves (away) Everton (home) Southampton (away) Chelsea (home) Palace (away) our next 5 like. We're in trouble.
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He left him on and didnt even use his 3rd sub until the 89th minute. What was the fucking point.
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Newcastle United 1-4 Manchester United - 17/10/2020 - post match from p18
Doctor Zaius replied to Disco's topic in Football
Hendrick, Linton off. Almiron and Fraser on please. -
Fuck Chelsea. Spineless cunts.
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Not last season. Probably not this season either.
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Cant think of many more Rohan Ricketts had quite the tour