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would play Sammy and probably would try and get Campbell some minutes

really is amazing how one simple decision can be responsible for as much hatred as Ashley and the decision simply was hiring Keegan in the first place, would everything have played out like it has? Would there been anywhere near the level of reaction if someone other than a Newcastle legend in Keegan had been forced out in the manner he was?

I don't argue against anyone having a coherent view that places blame for footballing issues at Pardew's feet, or anyone that condemns the arse-licking of the chairman as part of an anti-Ashley viewpoint. If someone wants Pardew sacked and replaced by Mike Ashley though, then I can't see why sycophancy would be an issue for them. That person either wants another Ashley sycophant or someone that will speak up and isn't going to last very long in the job. Neither of which solve the specific problem they claim to have with Pardew's media appearances. Lots of European managers are used to working under the conditions imposed by Ashley, and I daresay plenty of young English managers would jump at the chance to manage the club as well. Ashley won't pay for the big names, but there must be plenty of young managers with potential who can organise a side well given some half decent players. the conditions imposed by Ashley are rather more erratic and insane than most other places. I'm sure most fans think that about their own boards. most just qualify as daft decisions, Ashleys are just all over the place with absolutely no logic to them at all, only club off the top of my head that is as erratic decision wise is Abramovich and Chelsea but he spends loads of cash to compensate Ashley doesn't

mentioned once or twice else where but since this is the thread for it, the term "football hipsters" no idea how the hell this has gotten so prevalent but the sooner it goes away the better.

I don't argue against anyone having a coherent view that places blame for footballing issues at Pardew's feet, or anyone that condemns the arse-licking of the chairman as part of an anti-Ashley viewpoint. If someone wants Pardew sacked and replaced by Mike Ashley though, then I can't see why sycophancy would be an issue for them. That person either wants another Ashley sycophant or someone that will speak up and isn't going to last very long in the job. Neither of which solve the specific problem they claim to have with Pardew's media appearances. Lots of European managers are used to working under the conditions imposed by Ashley, and I daresay plenty of young English managers would jump at the chance to manage the club as well. Ashley won't pay for the big names, but there must be plenty of young managers with potential who can organise a side well given some half decent players. the conditions imposed by Ashley are rather more erratic and insane than most other places.

the whole lack of transparency isn't unique to us (though we're clearly an exaggerated form of it with Ashley making random decisions on a whim) and is more a symptom of modern football itself, the only true way there can be transparency is if the fans had a share in the club and someone on the board and the only realistic way I can see that happening is an edict from the FA to force clubs into having that fan ownership ala Germany which is not bloody likely.

looking at the video of the press conference it doesn't even look like he was told about the ban was beginning to answer the question before he was cut off.

obviously he had nothing to do with it and wasn't even consulted on it just told this is how it is without it even been explained to him in full. Christ regardless of peoples opinion of Pardew is ludicrous how much he's been kept out of the loop on anything this is not the way to run a football club.

29 out of 60 so I can stick with my hatred of the phrase "football hipster"

banks had more to do with Hicks and Gillette than any fan group

its the timing of the release of the news of the ban I find interesting, they got it exactly right leaving it until the press conference to maximize publicity for themselves which also begs the question why the ban wasn't just reported by NUFC on the website when it happened, they've certainly put that kind of news up there before (Mail iirc)

he certainly couldn't have less of an influence on a game than Cisse atm doesn't even deserve to be getting near the bench

baffled by the inclusion of Ancelotti as well, is winning a league where you have a ridiculous advantage in spending power that big an achievement

that coach one is a bit of a joke. How the hell Mourinho can be on there is beyond me and what the hell did Del Bosque actually do this last year

From the official site. [email protected]. Know a couple of people who have emailed her about various issues in the past and tbf, she did respond. Someone email her, see if she will attend a protest meeting She did attend that one earlier in the season. Decision probably had little to do with her tbh, sounds like it was taken at board level. doesn't seem Pardew had much to do with it either forgot the link http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2013/oct/28/newcastle-mike-ashley-alan-pardew?CMP=twt_gu

what like ban the fans from the ground or something? Like him making a genuine attempt to sell the club on, perhaps at a loss. His main company are raking it in, why does he need the hassle? He really needs not to be let off the hook if he's even anywhere near being on the ropes. People in the NE need to stop buying track fucking suits and shit trainers at his crap stores. Stop buying that stuff altogether anyway, quality is better than quantity, but anyway... go to his competitor stores (don't tell me he owns ALL of the competitors....) he's doing a fair job of absorbing most of them

If he wants out, the price will reflect that. doubt it, I can't see any scenario where he will accept a loss on what he's put into the club.

Sigh.. Yes, obviously a buyer is ultimately needed for the club to no longer be owned by Ashley, but that doesn't mean there is nothing we can do except wait. We can make life really uncomfortable for him, making it more appealing for him to up sticks and lowering his asking price. Also, when the club is in turmoil the club could well also be otherwise more attractive to certain types of prospective buyers iyam. or it could put off buyers, they weren't exactly queuing up last time it was for sale and the club was in chaos. They were put off by the asking price. which isn't going to change He appears a sensitive soul, who knows what might happen if people start calling him nasty names on a regular basis again. he's also a guy who's amassed a very large amount of money and ignored plenty of media criticism about his primary business I don't think nasty names will change much about the asking price

Sigh.. Yes, obviously a buyer is ultimately needed for the club to no longer be owned by Ashley, but that doesn't mean there is nothing we can do except wait. We can make life really uncomfortable for him, making it more appealing for him to up sticks and lowering his asking price. Also, when the club is in turmoil the club could well also be otherwise more attractive to certain types of prospective buyers iyam. or it could put off buyers, they weren't exactly queuing up last time it was for sale and the club was in chaos. They were put off by the asking price. which isn't going to change

Sigh.. Yes, obviously a buyer is ultimately needed for the club to no longer be owned by Ashley, but that doesn't mean there is nothing we can do except wait. We can make life really uncomfortable for him, making it more appealing for him to up sticks and lowering his asking price. Also, when the club is in turmoil the club could well also be otherwise more attractive to certain types of prospective buyers iyam. or it could put off buyers, they weren't exactly queuing up last time it was for sale and the club was in chaos.

great thanks for that now I can't get rid of the image in my head of Ashley saying "you will respect my authoritah"

lovely now if they could actually discuss the issues at the club and not just how offended they are at being banned that would be great until then You're cutting your nose to spite your face if you want to make this something about the media being corrupt and looking after their own self interest first and foremost. That's nothing intelligent people already know. What's interesting about this latest development is that by banning them, Ashley has effectively pointed the barrel of the PR gun towards himself. Now, we can sit here and laugh at the media, or we use them for our own purpose, whilst they look after their own, in a 'enemy of your enemy is your friend' kind of way. I know which approach I'd prefer. while I'm far more cynical and have very little faith in the likes of Lee Ryder to achieve anything significant. I fully expect them to be allowed back in a few weeks and back to normal. In a few weeks time this club could be on the brink of a massive transformation if we play our cards right. It seems to me by your reactions you're almost hoping the local rags wind their neck in and everything returns to "normal" so you can say I told you so. we've seen this type of thing before we've sat through months and months of waiting for someone to come buy the club we've seen protests we've seen attendances dip we've seen relegation we've seen other papers banned we've seen the stadium renamed and people offended by that-nothing changed Ashleys still doing what he wants when he wants because in the end unless we all find £200m odd down the back of the couch nothing will any time soon. He won't change the way he does things a new manager won't change the chaotic way the club works and some protests won't cause him to suddenly want to spend money. I'd love to be optimistic and hopeful of things changing and this could be it but I just can't see it. If we make his life a living hell and hurt his primary business interest, he'll cut his losses eventually and sell at a loss if he has to. Alternatively, we can bend over and take whatever comes our way. how can we hurt his primary business interest? you think your average shopper on the street who's kid wants trainers or a football shirt would be anymore put off going into a sports direct shop or their website by his chaotic running of a football club compared to this? http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/05/zero-hours-contracts-cover-1m-uk-workers couple of hundred people walk into his shop on a saturday afternon and just block everything for an hour, would make him sit up and take notice when on the busiest day he loses business. great idea in theory but theres over 470 of them.

Second most cultured library of soccer in the world imo. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/04/27/article-2136234-12C8B569000005DC-403_964x548.jpg typical cheap ashey won't even pay for Sky plus

lovely now if they could actually discuss the issues at the club and not just how offended they are at being banned that would be great until then You're cutting your nose to spite your face if you want to make this something about the media being corrupt and looking after their own self interest first and foremost. That's nothing intelligent people already know. What's interesting about this latest development is that by banning them, Ashley has effectively pointed the barrel of the PR gun towards himself. Now, we can sit here and laugh at the media, or we use them for our own purpose, whilst they look after their own, in a 'enemy of your enemy is your friend' kind of way. I know which approach I'd prefer. while I'm far more cynical and have very little faith in the likes of Lee Ryder to achieve anything significant. I fully expect them to be allowed back in a few weeks and back to normal. In a few weeks time this club could be on the brink of a massive transformation if we play our cards right. It seems to me by your reactions you're almost hoping the local rags wind their neck in and everything returns to "normal" so you can say I told you so. we've seen this type of thing before we've sat through months and months of waiting for someone to come buy the club we've seen protests we've seen attendances dip we've seen relegation we've seen other papers banned we've seen the stadium renamed and people offended by that-nothing changed Ashleys still doing what he wants when he wants because in the end unless we all find £200m odd down the back of the couch nothing will any time soon. He won't change the way he does things a new manager won't change the chaotic way the club works and some protests won't cause him to suddenly want to spend money. I'd love to be optimistic and hopeful of things changing and this could be it but I just can't see it. If we make his life a living hell and hurt his primary business interest, he'll cut his losses eventually and sell at a loss if he has to. Alternatively, we can bend over and take whatever comes our way. how can we hurt his primary business interest? you think your average shopper on the street who's kid wants trainers or a football shirt would be anymore put off going into a sports direct shop or their website by his chaotic running of a football club compared to this? http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/aug/05/zero-hours-contracts-cover-1m-uk-workers

personally no, the past is the past. He's had his time its gone.