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considering what they spend and well the opposition in spain not exactly being numerous its not precisely ridiculous for them to have high expectations. The problem as always has been ridiculous decision making in the last 10 years and this is no more obvious than in the transfer market where players are bought not to fit in to some philosophy or if the head coach really wants him but because "Real Madrid must buy big names don't bother with minor details like do we actually need him in any fashion and can the money be better spend on some nobody defender or defensive midfielder they won't bring media attention!" There's only one man actually responsible for that, and fortunately they haven't noticed it yet and he's adored by their gullible fans. And he just amended the Real Madrid statutes so it's practically impossible to run against him - to a big round of applause and 90%+ support. Long may it continue. how can they fall for it again after the first galáctico era was a failure? Or do they just enjoy the yearly sight of some overpriced ego playing keepy uppy compared to actually winning trophies by sensibly investing such a huge amount of money

my eyes my poor eyes! still

Pardew did exactly this. difference is Pardew was the one who got us to 5th in the first place unlike that fuckwit Souness and he sure as hell didn't have £55m to spend on players

So Ashley would be upset to read praise about one of the club's employees? I assume it is someone who has since left. my guess is Pardew, he's not exactly fond of him atm

Our lack of creation against a team with a minus 16 GD, the major worry imo. same problem we're going to keep on having unless we address it in the transfer window we have no width in the side (hba remy etc all cut into the middle when playing wide) and it makes our side woefully predictable Aye if we are to try to cross it we need a winger and Striker. I still say we should be able to create lots of chances with the players we have. But Pardew's lack of tactically accumen to have good movement and attacking intent makes us buying players like a Winger or Striker futile. They'll struggle in such a stagnant team. (The movement has been better at times this season tbf) forget anything like accumen etc our side just needs it to change things around when its not working. As it stands we'll only ever end up going through the middle and not stretching sides with width and pace so once that game plan is shut down what then? None of our players apart from Sammy are naturally inclined to width and pace. Buy a good winger and I dare say a fair number of the plodding performances we've seen come out as wins (not all obviously)

Premier League only.... http://i39.tinypic.com/15nwqcg.jpg Considering what he took over and what he's done with it he's easily the worst on that list. What a cunt. Dalglish and Souness are worse, both took over after very successful periods and screwed up completely not sure i agree in some respects both managers you mention were tasked with changing a perceived failure in the methods of their predecessors (our 2 most successful managers of the era btw) and both failed at that...same for gullit tbh although KD wasn't successful gullit was expected to reverse the style of play and failed to do so nah, i'm sticking with my first statement, he's the worst of the lot - the players we have now would be tearing it up with anyone else, he's a fucking jonah man Daglish took over a side fighting for the title (including having the worlds most expensive player at the time) and when he left the club was mid table Souness took over a side competing around the european spots and left a woefully overpaid squad somewhere in lower midtable. How anyone can argue Pardew has done worse is beyond me. they fucked up more because they were in charge of their own transfer and made an utter shitsack of it pardew has been handed good players and a squad improving in quality since the moment he arrived, he's fucking incapable of managing it...it's contentious, i'll agree, and depends on what you value personally as to who you think has failed more - as i said imo KD and GS were both publicly tasked with righting the perceived faults of their predecessors and this was ultimately the only reason both were appointed pardew had none of this shit going on, he took over a team on the up with few expectations, the quality of player has improved and performances have dipped with the exception of the 5th season which surely ever fucker now has to see as a total freakshow Dalglish and Souness walked into sides with much better players than any we have now and cocked up completely leaving us a pale shadow of what we were. Face it nothing Pardews done anywhere near the damage that those 2 did to nufc. Souness in particular has to be vilified he walked into a side that had finished 5th the previous season (iirc) tore it apart and after being given a fortune to spend screwed up his spending completely and his transfers at best did okay at worst were complete disasters that left us with wage wise a champions league side but nowhere near those places and it was the first step to our eventual relegation. Look, I know what you're saying and the impact Souness had, for example, was obviously devastating long term but don't forget he was brought in to do what he did, very clearly by FS. Going in circles man. They're all shite, the point I'm making is the others signed the players that sealed their fates. If Pardew was given 50m to spend on who he wanted how do you think would go from there on in? Better or worse than Souness? No, he's been handed fillet steak and has served up fucking dog food. Since I'm of the opinion a well trained dog could have spent money better than Souness did obviously better. And no one got handed a better chance than him than Souness. What we have now and what Pardew has to work with is a team built not on any kind of intelligent plan or grand footballing philosophy what we got in a side built with two objectives 1 cheap 2 sell on. And it bloody shows the side is woefully imbalanced and severely lacking in key area's. This isn't any kind of squad that should automatically be competing around the european places its a side that stinks of mid table.

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considering what they spend and well the opposition in spain not exactly being numerous its not precisely ridiculous for them to have high expectations. The problem as always has been ridiculous decision making in the last 10 years and this is no more obvious than in the transfer market where players are bought not to fit in to some philosophy or if the head coach really wants him but because "Real Madrid must buy big names don't bother with minor details like do we actually need him in any fashion and can the money be better spend on some nobody defender or defensive midfielder they won't bring media attention!"

Premier League only.... http://i39.tinypic.com/15nwqcg.jpg Considering what he took over and what he's done with it he's easily the worst on that list. What a cunt. Dalglish and Souness are worse, both took over after very successful periods and screwed up completely not sure i agree in some respects both managers you mention were tasked with changing a perceived failure in the methods of their predecessors (our 2 most successful managers of the era btw) and both failed at that...same for gullit tbh although KD wasn't successful gullit was expected to reverse the style of play and failed to do so nah, i'm sticking with my first statement, he's the worst of the lot - the players we have now would be tearing it up with anyone else, he's a fucking jonah man Daglish took over a side fighting for the title (including having the worlds most expensive player at the time) and when he left the club was mid table Souness took over a side competing around the european spots and left a woefully overpaid squad somewhere in lower midtable. How anyone can argue Pardew has done worse is beyond me. they fucked up more because they were in charge of their own transfer and made an utter shitsack of it pardew has been handed good players and a squad improving in quality since the moment he arrived, he's fucking incapable of managing it...it's contentious, i'll agree, and depends on what you value personally as to who you think has failed more - as i said imo KD and GS were both publicly tasked with righting the perceived faults of their predecessors and this was ultimately the only reason both were appointed pardew had none of this shit going on, he took over a team on the up with few expectations, the quality of player has improved and performances have dipped with the exception of the 5th season which surely ever fucker now has to see as a total freakshow Dalglish and Souness walked into sides with much better players than any we have now and cocked up completely leaving us a pale shadow of what we were. Face it nothing Pardews done anywhere near the damage that those 2 did to nufc. Souness in particular has to be vilified he walked into a side that had finished 5th the previous season (iirc) tore it apart and after being given a fortune to spend screwed up his spending completely and his transfers at best did okay at worst were complete disasters that left us with wage wise a champions league side but nowhere near those places and it was the first step to our eventual relegation.

Premier League only.... http://i39.tinypic.com/15nwqcg.jpg Considering what he took over and what he's done with it he's easily the worst on that list. What a cunt. Dalglish and Souness are worse, both took over after very successful periods and screwed up completely not sure i agree in some respects both managers you mention were tasked with changing a perceived failure in the methods of their predecessors (our 2 most successful managers of the era btw) and both failed at that...same for gullit tbh although KD wasn't successful gullit was expected to reverse the style of play and failed to do so nah, i'm sticking with my first statement, he's the worst of the lot - the players we have now would be tearing it up with anyone else, he's a fucking jonah man Daglish took over a side fighting for the title (including having the worlds most expensive player at the time) and when he left the club was mid table Souness took over a side competing around the european spots and left a woefully overpaid squad somewhere in lower midtable. How anyone can argue Pardew has done worse is beyond me.

if this clown never shows up again at SJP it will be too soon

the whole lack of transparency isn't unique to us (though we're clearly an exaggerated form of it with Ashley making random decisions on a whim) and is more a symptom of modern football itself, the only true way there can be transparency is if the fans had a share in the club and someone on the board and the only realistic way I can see that happening is an edict from the FA to force clubs into having that fan ownership ala Germany which is not bloody likely. Agreed but he has taken it to a whole new level. There can't be a club anywhere in the world with an owner making such ludicrous decisions with absolutely no explanation. Abramovich on his day is as bad as Ashley for it but with the huge cash put in to make up for it. Venkys too are beyond ridiculous

Premier League only.... http://i39.tinypic.com/15nwqcg.jpg Considering what he took over and what he's done with it he's easily the worst on that list. What a cunt. Dalglish and Souness are worse, both took over after very successful periods and screwed up completely

Our lack of creation against a team with a minus 16 GD, the major worry imo. same problem we're going to keep on having unless we address it in the transfer window we have no width in the side (hba remy etc all cut into the middle when playing wide) and it makes our side woefully predictable

dunno his time at Norwich hasn't exactly been impressive and its looking like he could be on his way before long Eh? He took one of the smallest clubs in the premiership to 11th in his first season with them, how's that not reasonably impressive? going by opinions on Norwich forums which there appears to be a fair number want him out this quote was interesting

dunno his time at Norwich hasn't exactly been impressive and its looking like he could be on his way before long It's a very limited first 11 compared to ours. after spending a fair wad of cash in the summer.

dunno his time at Norwich hasn't exactly been impressive and its looking like he could be on his way before long

And getting dicked six nowt at home was even better. Not sure if Brett is genuine or a wum. I get called a WUM because my views are different to others? I don't like Hughton, i think Barton is a cunt who achieved nothing here and gets far too much arse licking from fans and i was happy to see us flog Carroll, three things which is like blasphemy to Newcastle fans whilst i absolutely love Ben Arfa, adore Cabaye and don't fancy seeing Ashley make another managerial appointment at this club. Genuine views of mine and I’m a lot more positive now towards our group of players as they do have genuine class amongst them which I still believe they can show. well I agree on the Barton thing (and in retrospect the Carroll thing though at the time I was most displeased)

Strange argument to make now, considering we spent quite a lot of Hughton's reign calling him a 'yes man' for Ashley. Time has shown us just who the yes man is now, would you not think ?. both of them tbh, neither created a fuss and try to get on with their jobs. Aye i guess Hughton not bullshitting and not being prepared to lose against teams like Man City before the ball was kicked, give him the edge for me like. all managers bullshit and if thats a demand for a new boss to be completely honest then its going to be a very short list of managers available. Is a criticism I never understood, managers lie all the time thats part of football why get upset about it

Strange argument to make now, considering we spent quite a lot of Hughton's reign calling him a 'yes man' for Ashley. Time has shown us just who the yes man is now, would you not think ?. both of them tbh, neither created a fuss and try to get on with their jobs.

Premier League games only.... http://i39.tinypic.com/15nwqcg.jpg Hmm, not that brilliant either really. He's been here almost twice as long as anyone else excluding KK/SBR and his record looks remarkably mediocre. Would have been sacked by now if we had a proper owner, not that I'm saying you're likely to disagree with that. got bored so quickly converted it to points per game assuming all that wins and draws are accurate for prem (and no reason not to think so) and this is it and for pig iron translated over a 38 game season (points per game is rounded up to 2 decimal places) Keegan (1) 1.84 70 points SBR 1.6 61 points Roeder 1.42 54 points Dalglish 1.36 52 points Pardew 1.35 51 points Allerdyce 1.23 47 points Hughton 1.19 45 points Souness 1.18 45 points Keegan (2) 1.11 42 points Gullit 1.09 41 points Kinnear 1.04 40 points Shearer (almost unfair to include him but why not) 0.38 14 points

there's a fan liaison manager?

Man City away, next! *gulp* gone in the next international date imho

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