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lovely now if they could actually discuss the issues at the club and not just how offended they are at being banned that would be great until then You're cutting your nose to spite your face if you want to make this something about the media being corrupt and looking after their own self interest first and foremost. That's nothing intelligent people already know. What's interesting about this latest development is that by banning them, Ashley has effectively pointed the barrel of the PR gun towards himself. Now, we can sit here and laugh at the media, or we use them for our own purpose, whilst they look after their own, in a 'enemy of your enemy is your friend' kind of way. I know which approach I'd prefer. while I'm far more cynical and have very little faith in the likes of Lee Ryder to achieve anything significant. I fully expect them to be allowed back in a few weeks and back to normal. In a few weeks time this club could be on the brink of a massive transformation if we play our cards right. It seems to me by your reactions you're almost hoping the local rags wind their neck in and everything returns to "normal" so you can say I told you so. we've seen this type of thing before we've sat through months and months of waiting for someone to come buy the club we've seen protests we've seen attendances dip we've seen relegation we've seen other papers banned we've seen the stadium renamed and people offended by that-nothing changed Ashleys still doing what he wants when he wants because in the end unless we all find £200m odd down the back of the couch nothing will any time soon. He won't change the way he does things a new manager won't change the chaotic way the club works and some protests won't cause him to suddenly want to spend money. I'd love to be optimistic and hopeful of things changing and this could be it but I just can't see it.

completely irrelevant to anything at all to do with this thread or pretty much anything except my own personal gripes but my god I hate that phrase.

lovely now if they could actually discuss the issues at the club and not just how offended they are at being banned that would be great until then You're cutting your nose to spite your face if you want to make this something about the media being corrupt and looking after their own self interest first and foremost. That's nothing intelligent people already know. What's interesting about this latest development is that by banning them, Ashley has effectively pointed the barrel of the PR gun towards himself. Now, we can sit here and laugh at the media, or we use them for our own purpose, whilst they look after their own, in a 'enemy of your enemy is your friend' kind of way. I know which approach I'd prefer. while I'm far more cynical and have very little faith in the likes of Lee Ryder to achieve anything significant. I fully expect them to be allowed back in a few weeks and back to normal.

Eh? They've been banned for discussing the issues at the club. and all the coverage I've seen in the media since the ban yesterday (nationals as well) has been a load of bollocks about freedom of press and how it would hurt nufc blah blah blah instead of far more important issues going on at the club like the SD ads Kinnears continued employment failure to sign anyone permanently in the summer etc its all just been how offended they are at media being banned. Now if they actually go down that path (and sack Lee Ryder) then well done to them but imho the far more likely outcome is more self pitying crap and softly softly approach instead of tackling real issues and they'll be allowed back in probably at the next international break and claim it as a victory and how they're "razor sharp independent analysis" will continue and everything will go back to normal and nothing will have changed one bit in their coverage.

lovely now if they could actually discuss the issues at the club and not just how offended they are at being banned that would be great until then

moron but at least he admitted his stupidity. Seriously how can footballers be so consistently stupid over driving.

I'll bet he's not on a massive salary either. Pretty much blows the "we can't get any better under Ashley" line out of the water. they do also spend rather a lot of money we don't and won't under Ashley which is a rather more significant in the grand scheme of things.

same issue remains now as it did then the lack of a buyer. Maybe it's more the terms than the lack of interest. I wouldn't touch the club unless Ashley was completely out of the picture, meaning you'd have to buy the club AND pay off it's debt to him. If the deal was that he'd be paid back over time, you can imagine that negative influence/power in the background would put many off. I think best case scenario at this point is that his chopper takes a dive, preferably when he's giving JFK a lift home one night. I simply think its a lack of interest, for example Everton have been a good premier league side competing mostly in the top half of the prem- European spots for the last 10 years, an old club with a proud history and to take a modern football term a decent brand (ugh) and have been trying to sell for quite a while if you believe Kenwright and co yet no ones bought it, I can't see a scenario at present where Ashley will sell for anything less than every penny he put into buying the club etc which is a rather large amount.

the only thing that could have chance of affecting him is a complete 100% boycott of St James which being realistic is never going to happen. And frankly I'm not sure even that would have any affect not with the huge premier league cash on offer it dilutes the impact of gates on the income and the more likely impact would simply be further costs cuts and he waiting until he finds someone to meet his asking price and not budging an inch til then. I disagree here. If our home gates were slashed down to 20k even 30k, there would be a lot of empty seats and the mainstream televized media (Sky, BT, Jazeera etc..) will pick it up and run with it. It will make it a global issue (as the PL is now), and make our case against Ashley even more prominent than Villa's with Ellis or Blackburn's with Venkys. It doesn't have to be a 100% boycott imo. Even that would be exceptionally difficult to pull off as the most likely reaction based on last few years is they'd simply lower ticket prices to get more people to come.

same issue remains now as it did then the lack of a buyer.

the only thing that could have chance of affecting him is a complete 100% boycott of St James which being realistic is never going to happen. And frankly I'm not sure even that would have any affect not with the huge premier league cash on offer it dilutes the impact of gates on the income and the more likely impact would simply be further costs cuts and he waiting until he finds someone to meet his asking price and not budging an inch til then.

or it could just be for a few weeks nothing happens status quo resumes. And forgive me for not pinning hopes of ousting ashley on an organization that willingly employs lee ryder as their chief nufc reporter.

It's not who it is, it's the childish reaction to some news that's at question here. my point is though all this coverage none of it is discussing the merits and otherwise of Mike Ashleys Newcastle, theres no analysis about what he is doing appointing JFK with the sports direct sponsorship etc theres not even much discussion about the game yesterday or how we could lose that game, instead its all people offended by the idea of any newspaper being banned and meaningless platitudes about freedom of the press blah blah blah. Frankly were it not a total fluke I'd call it genius misdirection by the club.

Do they? They have world wide exposure as it is without the Newspapers and people won't suddenly forget that the Premier League exists without the mighty newspapers reminding us they exist. Frankly I'd say its rather the other way around

I still find myself remarkably unconcerned about this and more annoyed that the media industry is more offended by the very prospect of being banned than any of the actual issues with the club.

far be it from me to point out these things but well thats what all clubs would like to do Well, so do I. We all love controlling all sorts of narratives about us, in both our personal lives and at work. Not all of us have the pure wanker personalities though to clamp down on media and stop others from doing their jobs. Which other clubs have taken such steps, on such a regular basis? well obvious example one Alex Ferguson.

not quite but they did stand in front of one which is close enough http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/10/28/article-0-18DB678B00000578-670_634x408.jpg

far be it from me to point out these things but well thats what all clubs would like to do

Williamsons been here since the championship season and isn't short of game time over the period

most common number I've seen is 500 but open to correction

http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/full-text-letter-newcastle-united-6249120#.Um53xDbItrk.twitter

yet Lee Ryder continues to be employed.

Why wouldn't he have 'the temerity' to do that, like? It's a perfectly legitimate complaint, which makes it the perfect excuse. I can't see many managers not mentioning a questionable decision that led to a winning goal. This is in no way a defence of anyone or anything, but of all the legitimate complaints from yesterday, this ranks near the bottom. If the positions had been reversed and we had scored the winner from the free kick, would you have been defending Poyet from accusations that he was whingeing after defeat....? Or would you have said he was just a sad bitter Mackem..!? standard manager crap. Every single one would complain about it.

Matt Dickinson ‏@DickinsonTimes 2h @MiguelDelaney still 8 groups in Platini model. 8 x 5. Claims it's only 3 extra days. Can't say I agree, mind another 3 days and the standards of the world cup lowered even more, hell lets just invite everyone and have one giant 209 team tournament!

on the bright side at least MYM will be available again