Away Toon

Mick's post pretty much sums it up for me. I don't believe that he's a good manager particularly, and don't think he will improve. We have some good players, playing the least entertaining football in the Premier League. Not only is it horrible to watch, we are in serious danger of being relegated. With any other owner (one who hadn't given his manager a 8 year contract) he'd have been sacked, as have lots of other managers down at the bottom with us.

Pardew saying he thinks Taylor was really unlucky with the penalty decision. The deluded twat should be sacked for that alone.

Pardew saying he thinks Taylor was really unlucky with the penalty decision. The deluded twat should be sacked for that alone.

Cisse was very good, Sissoko and Krul good and Jonas and Simpson OK. But the rest either anonymous like Marveaux and Anita or terrible like Santon, Taylor, MYM, Cabaye, Perch, and Shola. Am I the only one that thinks that Cabaye is pretty useless as a DM? He runs around a lot, but tackles poorly and he's a dirty bastard. He'd be much better further up the pitch. Berbatov must be licking his lips if he watched that. If we lose to Fulham the second leg is immaterial and we will have to rest players, as if we were then to lose to the mackems we would almost certainly be down.

This could have been the same result as the Arsenal game, 7-3 would be a reasonable reflection on the game. Krul has kept us in the match, but overall they are way better than we are.

We have to get a second they will definitely score at SJP.

Game and tie over.

Santon's play was a classic illustration of a lot of our negative play.

Defensively we are frighteningly bad. What is it Pardew is meant to be good at?

Might have the away goal but they look like they could score a bagful against our dodgy defence.

I don't think that Carroll is likely to take a huge pay cut from what Liverpool pay him, to play for anyone else and why should he. Probably back out on loan, maybe to us until his contract there runs out.

It initially looked like a mistake by Valdes, but there was a big deflection in there that wrong footed him.

Anybody who thinks that's a dive doesn't understand football. Dumbass keeper though.

Alves is having a seriously good match.

We will definitely try to sign him this summer, he's exactly the kind of player Pardew likes and fits the way he likes to play (hoof). Whether somebody will offer more money than us is the questions, if nobody does, he'll be back or out on loan again next season.

Well at least the mackems have tried to do something rather than just meekly let O' Neill take them down. QPR, Reading and Southampton have also reacted to the positions they were in even if it seems likely that for QPR and Reading it probably will make no difference. Pardew deserves to be sacked for leading the club to the position we find ourselves in, but the idiots in charge somehow gave him an Eight year contract and have been hoisted by their own petard. Nobody is soccer gets a 8 year contract, as the excellent Jenny Owen Youngs sings "What the fuck were they thinking"

From ESPN. Sums up the game and Pardew perfectly. So what do you do if you are missing your first choice goalkeeper and three of your strongest back four? If you are Alan Pardew you send your team out to play Manchester City at the Etihad with orders to play as defensively and negatively as possible. You have to have a vivid imagination to believe that would work. Either that or you believe you are beaten before kickoff and just want to get the game out of the way while conceding as few goals as possible. Whatever he was thinking it did not work. Newcastle were thrashed 4-0 without putting up a fight. - Curtis: More of this and less of that for City - Jolly: Kompany comeback fires City One commonly held belief is that Pardew made his lineup and tactical decisions based on the long injury list the club continue to suffer from and the prospect of a Europa League quarterfinal against Benfica on Thursday. Obviously there is truth to this but Newcastle's approach was like a League Two side coming to play against City in a cup tie. While I didn't expect Newcastle to pick up a result today (City's bench alone cost them over £120 million) I would at least like to have seen them have a go. Just like in the 3-0 home defeat to Manchester United earlier in the season, Pardew sent out a defensive team then switched to attack mode once Newcastle were 2-0 down and the game was gone. City's first two goals came late in the first half -- Carlos Tevez scored the first on 41 and then David Silva doubled the lead in stoppage time. Before that, Rob Elliot had produced a couple of good saves and Gareth Barry missed a great chance while Papiss Cisse volleyed a Marco Van Basten-style effort off the post -- Newcastle's only chance. The vast majority of the 45 minutes were played in Newcastle's half. Pardew made one substitution at half time when he took off Gabriel Obertan for James Perch. I'm not sure if Obertan even touched the ball while he was on the field. I'm not sure why he was out there in the first place. Newcastle finally showed some attacking intent early in the second half and a neat one two between Yohan Cabaye and Moussa Sissoko ended up with Cabaye shooting just wide. City went further ahead on 55 when Vincent Kompany steered a wayward Gareth Barry shot into the net. 3-0. Newcastle made a second change just after the hour -- Yoan Gouffran looked completely out of his depth and he made way for Dan Gosling. City on the other hand took off Carlos Tevez and brought on Kun Aguero! Yaya Toure made it 4-0 when he charged through Newcastle's players like a 25-year-old playing in an under-12s game and his shot deflected off Perch and beat Elliot at his near post. Cabaye made way for Gael Bigirimana with just under 20 minutes to play -- all Pardew was missing was a huge white flag to wave vociferously. In summary Defeat against Manchester City at the Etihad is no great surprise but the manner of the defeat was very disappointing. The Newcastle players body language from the off told me that they'd lost this game before it even started. When this season ends, Pardew has to be held accountable for these pathetic away displays. This defeat means that Newcastle have lost nine of their last 11 away games and have now lost four in a row. Eight points from a possible 48 on the road is absolutely diabolical. They've also conceded 35 goals on their travels -- more than any other team. Despite Pardew's claims after the win over Stoke that Newcastle were as good as safe, they remain in the danger zone at the bottom of the league. Wigan won today as did West Ham and Southampton meaning that Newcastle drop down to 15th and they now sit only three points from a relegation place. Anything less than a win over Fulham at home next week and Newcastle are in big, big trouble. Spare a thought for the fans who travelled in their thousands to Manchester. They paid £49 for their tickets to watch their team look like they'd rather be doing anything other than playing football. Like I said earlier, losing to Manchester City is not a surprise but the manner in which the Newcastle players went about it was totally unacceptable.

I think McLaren is a good coach, actually innovative. Maybe not so good as a Manager. Pardew is neither.

Pardew is lucky he hasn't met the same fate.

Nasri man of the match, sums it up really.

I think the loser in the derby will probably go down with Reading and QPR.

Wigan ahead, AC on a hat trick. We were never out of the clarts and we are in it up to our necks and sinking.

Cabaye is completely wasted as a defensive midfielder. That's the second game in a week where he's run around pointlessly, hasn't touched the ball, got booked, and wasted over an hour each time of his life.

What's wrong with getting relegated, the Championship was a ton of laughs. Might get rid of Pardew, Ashley might sell up, ok the good players like Cabaye would leave but he will anyhow. And most importantly every game wouldn't be on TV and I could start enjoying weekends again. It would a win win win situation.

Kompany did flick it on, it was deliberate, nothing fluky or lucky about it. I'd take getting relegated to get rid of Pardew and start again.