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Well its only highlights but they looked absolutely shite there.

We're not safe from relegation and it's an entirely hypothetical situation anyway.

I cannot be chewed with the way the mackems will go on after a win so that. I would definitely accept a draw though if for some weird reason that meant we got into the semis.

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Me too, although sometimes you just want to rip his neck off because of some of his decisions you just have to love him. No. Pure love. No angst ever. That f***ing celebration man. Definitely. Absolutely love him. He's going to destroy Miss Newcastle tonight. :lol: What a ludicrous touch though for his goal. Awesome celebration too.

I was thinking the exact same I still am even after seeing his reply

Top post lovejoy Especially the bit about Southampton realising that they have outgrown their man and moving on. With Pardew the squad won't evolve to what it's capable of imo, that's the only reason I want him gone (outside of this horrific season anyway), even if he does well next season, which I think he will, we'll never be what we could be and it will always make me sad. In short I can tolerate Pardew but I don't want him.

people grow an attachment to a manager and just want him to succeed, it happens all the time. Pardew probably does deserve a chance to prove himself with a full squad, but I don't think we can afford to give him it. We're not a charity.

And before anyone says anything here, a couple of years ago this was different as it appeared that we were an unattractive club who players didn't want to be 100 miles of with an owner who was unwilling invest/was just going to pocket the cash etc. That simply isn't the case at all now. bit of a way to go before you can call us a club that should be battling for the top 4 every season with the sides all battling for it atm Yeah, because they all have top managers. Chelsea fans would disagree, but they have other advantages Chelsea can buy their way into the top 4, Arsenal are staying in on sheer inertia at this stage, Liverpools history and profile allows them to have an easier job of attracting better players like Suarez to the club who would never come here even if we were in the identical position to Liverpool when trying to sign him from Ajax. Arguably the ones who don't have a significant advantage over us are Everton who can barely be called in the cl race any year but could be said to be challenging for it and they stuck with Moyes even after a relegation battle after a good season and Spurs who have a similar enough methodology to us in how they work but are a few years further down the line. A few years ago they were still challenging for the top 4, as they have been for donkeys because they've had good managers. Moyes is a better manager than Pardew too, just because they stuck with him and it worked doesn't mean it's the same with every manager. It's the same with Fergie "What if Man U sacked him back in 93!" or whenever it was, well yeah, but what if they stuck with Alan Pardew in 93? Moyes had a chance to prove himself a good manager at Everton, Pardew after last season should be allowed this season as a bad one with a chance to show he can produce better again next season imho (assuming we stay up) Fair enough I suppose, personally I just want a manager in who we know is good and who has a tendency to not play woeful football. I'm on the verge of vinegar strokes every weekend only to have Pardew come along and boot me square in the cock.

Pretty much this. I said top 4 and I would at least expect us to put up a decent fight every year but ultimately it's a battle of the teams just outside of that bracket. If we're amongst that I'm happy, if we can do one better and break into the top 4 (which is entirely possible) I'd be fucking delighted, obviously.

And before anyone says anything here, a couple of years ago this was different as it appeared that we were an unattractive club who players didn't want to be 100 miles of with an owner who was unwilling invest/was just going to pocket the cash etc. That simply isn't the case at all now. bit of a way to go before you can call us a club that should be battling for the top 4 every season with the sides all battling for it atm Yeah, because they all have top managers. Chelsea fans would disagree, but they have other advantages Chelsea can buy their way into the top 4, Arsenal are staying in on sheer inertia at this stage, Liverpools history and profile allows them to have an easier job of attracting better players like Suarez to the club who would never come here even if we were in the identical position to Liverpool when trying to sign him from Ajax. Arguably the ones who don't have a significant advantage over us are Everton who can barely be called in the cl race any year but could be said to be challenging for it and they stuck with Moyes even after a relegation battle after a good season and Spurs who have a similar enough methodology to us in how they work but are a few years further down the line. A few years ago they were still challenging for the top 4, as they have been for donkeys because they've had good managers. Moyes is a better manager than Pardew too, just because they stuck with him and it worked doesn't mean it's the same with every manager. It's the same with Fergie "What if Man U sacked him back in 93!" or whenever it was, well yeah, but what if they stuck with Alan Pardew in 93?

We lost 2 days ago. We lost 2 days ago against a very good side, away from home, largely due to individual errors, in the first leg of the QF of a major european competition, whilst creating some very good chances which we were unfortunate not to convert, without a number of important players. I don't see how it's relevant to the "this team should be challenging for 4th and it's all Pardew's fault we're not" argument. I was just pointing out the error of your post, sorry. Anyway you seem to be suggesting that we only have this discussion directly after we have played horribly and lost? That seems very fickle and reactionary to me.

There's 2 things that prevent a side from challenging at the top of the table, the first is a lack of investment, the 2nd is a shit manager (comparatively).

And before anyone says anything here, a couple of years ago this was different as it appeared that we were an unattractive club who players didn't want to be 100 miles of with an owner who was unwilling invest/was just going to pocket the cash etc. That simply isn't the case at all now. bit of a way to go before you can call us a club that should be battling for the top 4 every season with the sides all battling for it atm Yeah, because they all have top managers.

We lost 2 days ago.

It happens on both sides tbf, the difference is I can fully understand the boring hysteria of the "KILL PARDS" crew, they're just passionate about their club to the extent that it retards them. The "LEAVE PARDS ALONE" lot are baffling though, at the very least you have to accept that Pardew isn't the best man for the job and the club could be light years better off if they went with another man.t hat isn't even debatable imo, he's an average manager in charge of a club that should be battling for the top 4 every season. Since when? Not saying it shouldn't be an obvious aim, and maybe we're in a decent position to build towards having another tilt at it, but to expect that is a bit rich. Historically as a club we'd struggle to average top 8 consistently, nevermind top 4. I don't mean finish top 4, but at least challenge. Historically we've never been there for many reasons, when we've been backed and have had a decent manager at the helm though we've nearly won the fucking league on 2 or 3 occasions.

Even with Ben Arfa out we have a possible front 6 from Cisse, Gouffran, Marv, Sissoko, Cabaye, Anita, Jonas, Tiote. I think someone could do something with that.

And before anyone says anything here, a couple of years ago this was different as it appeared that we were an unattractive club who players didn't want to be 100 miles of with an owner who was unwilling invest/was just going to pocket the cash etc. That simply isn't the case at all now.

It happens on both sides tbf, the difference is I can fully understand the boring hysteria of the "KILL PARDS" crew, they're just passionate about their club to the extent that it retards them. The "LEAVE PARDS ALONE" lot are baffling though, at the very least you have to accept that Pardew isn't the best man for the job and the club could be light years better off if they went with another man.t hat isn't even debatable imo, he's an average manager in charge of a club that should be battling for the top 4 every season.

It is daft when we're criticising the man for saying we need to stop a couple of their key players getting into the game, like. If he bases our entire team shape and game plan around stopping them then it's a different story, he's done it before.

Fuck off, you're making that up. Please? I know me too, I was hoping we'd pay no attention to him either.

http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11661_6635071,00.html :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Nice one, Pards. :lol: It's unbelievable man.

http://www.newcastle-online.org/nufcforum/index.php/topic,93381.msg4327766.html#msg4327766 The question still remains Polic that's all I could think about flicking through the photos

:lol: why have they done that?