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Well worked goal. About the fifth or sixth time they've had an overload down our right hand side though. Something center mids should pick up on

Fantastic tackle from Janmaat!

Anita a bit lucky there. Went through the ball but the kind of tackle you see reds for.

Ageuro misses with Sterling clear outside him. City getting a few overloads going down our right side.

Mitro looked offside on the replay, unlike the goal that was ruled out, unless it was Janmaat before the replay started

Another chance! WTF?

Good chance for Mitro!

Great header, great ball in, and, a great work from Mbabu.

Get in!

Huge vote of no confidence in Tiote if Gouffran plays center mid. The Abeid decision is biting us on the arse here too as everyone is saying.

Berahino taken off and Lambert and Anichebe left as unused subs for WBA. Well negative.

He missed some real sitters last year, but new league etc. etc. Strikers especially need confidence. His record will have loads of sub appearances, so the games vs. goals stat will be a tad unfair to him. Luuk de Jong has recovered from his stint in Germany and with us for PSV, so it might click again for Riviere, though maybe not at Prem level. What is for certain is that with 3 points from 7 games and few chances created, we cannot afford a striker who missing clear openings like Riviere did last year. We need players that can produce right now.

Getting back to yesterday's game but we were set up well. I thought Fabregas looked back to form and Chelsea were much better with Oscar last week against Arsenal, even before the sending off, but we handled them easily for the first 60 odd minutes. Once we tired, McClaren could have been a bit more proactive in trying to keep the ball at the other end, but I'll give him a pass given the shite we've had in the past four or five games. He has to build on this result though. I though Ayoze looked comfortable at #10 against Man U and it was a bad move not to keep him there against Arsenal and West Ham.

Yeah, I don't know why people keep saying this. In the two seasons McClaren was there, Derby were second top scorers at home (94 in 46 games) and fifth top scorers away (75 in 46 games) in the top four divisions. There is no way that happens with a "negative" manager. It was their goals against column and bad luck in the playoff loss to QPR that stopped them getting promoted. In 2013-14, they were top scorers in the division and managed only 6 less than we did when we won the Championship. Their promotion push last season was also marked by a defensive collapse in the second half of the season. Given our record last year, it might be more appropriate to question why a defensively hapless club hired a defensively suspect manager. Even McClaren's most famous moment, the wally with the brolly, was a 3-2 defeat. It wasn't the kind of 0-1 sit back and create nothing borefest we would later see from England under Capello.

Easily our MotM. Most of our play went through him first half, he scored one, and provided the other. That said, I think him slowing put more pressure on us in the last part of the game. I'm sure there would have been moans, but maybe SDJ for Perez should have been our first change to give us a fresh outlet and ease the pressure. 10km of half sprinting will take it out of anyone.

Making his debut out of position in a big pressure game, but did admirably. Well done! Watford sound like they have thrown together pretty much their entire team and have started all right, so sometimes risks on untested players do come off.

I didn't see any replays but if the fouls were fouls, they've cost us two points and nearly three. It's something to remember for anyone thinking we could use him deeper. Other than those, not too bad though.

Yep, we might have coped better when Ramires came on.

Until 1983(?) the away team shared half the gate receipts. It was viewed as football common sense and the rule was changed the behest of the biggest clubs like Man U, Arsenal, Liverpool, and Everton. Ten years later the next step to elitism was the breakaway of the Premier League from the Football League, concentrating more money at the top. The Champions League also came along to guarantee all the top teams in each country a place in the top European competition regardless of whether they win their league. In the last year or two, the tv money in the Premiership has finally risen to the level where gate receipts don't matter that much, esp if you are outside London and have limited income from corporate boxes. It now means that having a good support like us and Sunderland is hardly an advantage. The chance that NUFC had to leverage its good support into success post 83 has gone now. People may dislike Chelsea and Man City but without them it would have been Man U vs. Arsenal every season for most of the past twenty years. An elite of four teams is better than one of two.

I'm not giving up on it just yet, but it's going to be a long season. The new players and McClaren himself have come into a shambles and it really shows. Most worrying is the general inability of anyone other than Janmaat to fashion a chance.

Ferk me that was shocking. SDJ on, let's see if it sticks up there.

Costa should be off for hands to the face. Credit to Kosicelny for not going down, but it's only ended in his fellow CB being wound up and sent off. They should really use video evidence on crap like this. The officials won't always have the best view and with all the backchat going on anyway, it wouldn't slow the game down. In defence of Mitro, he merely trod over a dropping ball. I don't think the lad has sharp enough reflexes to instantaneously realize that it was an opportunity to kick someone.

So the FA did nothing about that Gabriel elbow last week. It looked pretty dodgy to me.

It's becoming really tiresome now, Kaka. What? His finishing is poor. Needs to work on that becaus he's really good at getting into great positions. Good saves I thought, especially the second. Sterling hit it across Buffon as he was moving in the other direction both times. If he keeps doing that he'll score goals or create ones off rebounds. City as a whole weren't unlucky though because their goal was a foul and the Juve goals were superb.

I'm guessing this qualifies as the third match of Mitro's ban. I think we need any and every bit of momentum we can get at the moment. Its also a home tie with no travelling, so I'd play a full strength team with as positive a formation as McClaren dares.