Jack Flash

They had a falling out quite recently, which our beloved manager was quick to publicize for no apparent reason.... Pardew is the poison at this club The West Ham chairman/mad man called him a cancer

They had a falling out quite recently, which our beloved manager was quick to publicize for no apparent reason....

Not bad for for 8 months work.

Yohan, there's no need to feel down Yohan, pick yourself off the ground Yohan, cause Debuchy's in town There's no need to be unhappy Debuchy's here to play with Yohan Cabaye Debuchy's here to play with Yohan Cabaye The "young man" "Yohan" thing has potential for a better lyricist.

Suspended sentence.

Krul Santon Colo Williams Debuchy Jonas Anita Obertan Cabaye Marveaux Cisse I think is how it's looking from the press conference footage fwiw. Debuchy and Cabaye constantly standing next to each other

"He's come in and been accomplished, really. He's not really come in and ripped any trees up, he just looks like a proper senior player. He knows the game, I'm not really giving him too much information. A few wide players haven't had any joy against him so (he's had) that sort of start and I'm really looking forward to seeing him in a Newcastle shirt and he's going to add some real quality to us"

"Spend money when it will greatly benefit us" yes. Like last Summer when we could have pushed on and aimed higher with some ambition and a modest outlay. But we're 15th and in a relegation fight now but the balance sheet looks healthy so who cares? I realise we're going in circles here so if you can't see the middle ground that Dave is pointing out then you're on the payroll.

Yeah me too. But we have an owner that just don´t care about the success, and a manager that just isn´t good enough to take us to the top. That makes it all even more frustrating because I agree that in many ways we do have a good structure. We would just need a owner that would care a little bit more, and a manager that is a little bit better. Who put the structure in place? The owner. Why? Because he wants his club to do well as a business. What is the best way, and arguably the only way, to bring that about? If the club is successful. Regardless of whether or not Ashley gives a flying f*** about the football (and reputedly he does), he's not only heavily incentivised to make us a successful club, he's taken all of the steps towards that that you say you appreciate. In this case, saying that the structure is great apart from the owner makes no sense. Ashley etc need to learn how to strike a balance between business sense and football sense. It's pointless having a well run business financially if it can't compete in the marketplace. It'd be a massive step forward for us if they could do that. We just bought France's first choice right back? In what sense are we not competing in the marketplace? If you mean we're not splashing the same cash as clubs in stronger positions than us, not paying whatever it takes to get our targets, then you do not want the best for the club and you should consider lobbying for the return of effing Freddie Shepherd We've just lost our top scorer? The point is we're only "splashing" the cash other teams give us and, as that's dried up considerably since the Carroll money has been spent, our incoming transfers have been minimal. Business sense + football sense pls

Just have a deadline day. According to some people on here you don't need to prepare bids etc, just have one day every 6 months and be done with it. According to football clubs you can't prepare bids outside the transfer window.

Yeah me too. But we have an owner that just don´t care about the success, and a manager that just isn´t good enough to take us to the top. That makes it all even more frustrating because I agree that in many ways we do have a good structure. We would just need a owner that would care a little bit more, and a manager that is a little bit better. Who put the structure in place? The owner. Why? Because he wants his club to do well as a business. What is the best way, and arguably the only way, to bring that about? If the club is successful. Regardless of whether or not Ashley gives a flying f*** about the football (and reputedly he does), he's not only heavily incentivised to make us a successful club, he's taken all of the steps towards that that you say you appreciate. In this case, saying that the structure is great apart from the owner makes no sense. Ashley etc need to learn how to strike a balance between business sense and football sense. It's pointless having a well run business financially if it can't compete in the marketplace. It'd be a massive step forward for us if they could do that.

This is definitely a big part of the problem. For all the talk of "just play 4-3-3!" and "just move Cisse inside!" it's just not that simple when the players are feeling like a dehydrated dog staring at an Arabian puddle. The biggest problem I have with Pardew is that this has been going on for months and I have no faith at all in him turning the confidence/morale issue around. He couldn't at other clubs and it's looking like he can't here. The confidence issue was summed up for me by the Everton game. At 1-0 up we had several chances, hit the post and had an extremely good shout for a penalty turned down. You could almost smell what was going to happen next, Poor decision by Atkinson gives them a free kick followed by a wonder strike from Baines just before half time. In the end they walk off with a win but there was nothing between the teams except that they are on a roll and full of confidence and er... we aren't. Almost a re-run of last season's game at SJP only then we had the confidence and won 2-1 with a "fortuitous" own goal from Heitinger and a worldy from Ryan Tayor. Momentum does that. What were these 'several chances'? Apart from the Perch header I don't remember us troubling them. I thought we lacked quality and looked like we had no idea how to break them down other than to hoof it to shola. We can't afford to play without cabaye and hba. Off the top of my head, Shola, Santon and Obertan should have done better with chances in the second half. Everton could have had 4 or 5 themselves, of course.

This is definitely a big part of the problem. For all the talk of "just play 4-3-3!" and "just move Cisse inside!" it's just not that simple when the players are feeling like a dehydrated dog staring at an Arabian puddle. The biggest problem I have with Pardew is that this has been going on for months and I have no faith at all in him turning the confidence/morale issue around. He couldn't at other clubs and it's looking like he can't here.

What They said they were doing all they can at the time, then admitted later they didn't do enough, so they were obviously lying to begin with ? Or is that too much logic for ya ? Not at all, it's exactly the right amount thanks. What I mean is that he has revised his view of the transfer window because he is now struggling.

Really? It never crossed my mind to think people would assume that. 4-3-3 however...

Whoscored has Cisse down as playing 13 times in the middle this season.

Please enlighten me on the numerous times youve seen Aubameyang play on the wing Someone who can. Not someone I've seen play on the wing numerous times. He's never played on the wing in his life He's played left wing 5 times this season and CF 12 times. Are those Pardew'esque selections though, similar to Cisse standing out like a sore thumb on the wing? The stuff of square pegs, round holes. Has he actually been effective when used at LW? Otherwise the appearance stat is misleading, and not a true indicator of his versatility (lack of). Wikipedia isn't that in-depth tbf.

I'm guessing because he isn't Remy. Aye. Typical transfer window cabin fever stuff.

We may have our new sacrificial lamb.

Like I said... You going to stalk me like you do with David or you going to be a good boy and try posting something worthwhile? Dont worry i know the answer.... Still can't take a joke then

Like I said...

If we're talking a difference of a million then it's just as bad tbh. We arent though are we? Unless you think we actually banked the whole Ba fee and that we paid out no signing on fees/agent fees for the players coming in too. Thats obviously ignoring the obvious fact its January 10th and we are clearly trying to spend more than a spare £1m or so anyway. I do think we got the whole Ba fee, like it was reported and I don't count agents fees/future wages etc as transfer fees. That kind of nonsense started with this lot and people are swallowing it. That money doesn't go to other clubs so it's not part of a transfer fee. Time will tell on the rest of the window. I can see strong cases for it going either way. 'Like it was reported' because there hasnt been 2000 variations of how much we got already reported, somewhat unsurprising that you would choose the highest value to suit your argument. Or because it was the most logical assessment I read on it. Either way, we've barely spent anything compared to most teams. If you want to keep defending that go ahead. And there it is. The ever stupid 'defending' statement just because i posted the actual facts of what you said. Well done mind, you should have thrown in sympathiser as well to look really daft Just so you know, whinging and bleating 10 times a day isnt the only way to go about not being happy with the club, its possible to not harp on and still feel let down. That last bit was a joke. You didn't post "facts" btw and I did say "probably" but whatever. Keep defending Ashley and Llambo like you always do. Good lad. I bet you actually believe that utter bollocks too No idea what you're banging on about now. Bye.

He must think it means something else, surely? Though coupled with "just a good pro" makes it even stranger.

If we're talking a difference of a million then it's just as bad tbh. We arent though are we? Unless you think we actually banked the whole Ba fee and that we paid out no signing on fees/agent fees for the players coming in too. Thats obviously ignoring the obvious fact its January 10th and we are clearly trying to spend more than a spare £1m or so anyway. I do think we got the whole Ba fee, like it was reported and I don't count agents fees/future wages etc as transfer fees. That kind of nonsense started with this lot and people are swallowing it. That money doesn't go to other clubs so it's not part of a transfer fee. Time will tell on the rest of the window. I can see strong cases for it going either way. 'Like it was reported' because there hasnt been 2000 variations of how much we got already reported, somewhat unsurprising that you would choose the highest value to suit your argument. Or because it was the most logical assessment I read on it. Either way, we've barely spent anything compared to most teams. If you want to keep defending that go ahead. And there it is. The ever stupid 'defending' statement just because i posted the actual facts of what you said. Well done mind, you should have thrown in sympathiser as well to look really daft Just so you know, whinging and bleating 10 times a day isnt the only way to go about not being happy with the club, its possible to not harp on and still feel let down. That last bit was a joke. You didn't post "facts" btw and I did say "probably" but whatever. Keep defending Ashley and Llambo like you always do. Good lad.

If we're talking a difference of a million then it's just as bad tbh. We arent though are we? Unless you think we actually banked the whole Ba fee and that we paid out no signing on fees/agent fees for the players coming in too. Thats obviously ignoring the obvious fact its January 10th and we are clearly trying to spend more than a spare £1m or so anyway. I do think we got the whole Ba fee, like it was reported and I don't count agents fees/future wages etc as transfer fees. That kind of nonsense started with this lot and people are swallowing it. That money doesn't go to other clubs so it's not part of a transfer fee. Time will tell on the rest of the window. I can see strong cases for it going either way. 'Like it was reported' because there hasnt been 2000 variations of how much we got already reported, somewhat unsurprising that you would choose the highest value to suit your argument. Or because it was the most logical assessment I read on it. Either way, we've barely spent anything compared to most teams. If you want to keep defending that go ahead.