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but the guy sacked by his last two clubs, clubs in the league below I might add. Is up to the task? Great stuff. It does seem like the local journos just make shit up or try to piece it all together to make a story. So I really hope that’s the case here. Absolutely ridiculous if true. Oh and Carver staying on as coach? Can't say I'm surprised, but it is still an utterly appalling decision. Stop employing mongs and rewarding mediocrity and failure.

Scratch that. I'm not even remotely excited at all. That seems to be the general consensus across the board Why in the fuck are we keeping this twat on in any capacity, other than cleaner or kit man? Oh yeah, the 8 year deal. How could I forget?

Newcastle will give him the tools for himself and the club to be successful. He will have plenty of good players with millions to spend this summer. We also give him a platform to manage one of the best teams in England. This along with million other reasons will make us an attractive option for him and great tools to deliver and make him one of the best managers in the future. http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/05/01/article-2137847-12C2BB42000005DC-433_468x309.jpg These three c***s are tools that he will be given. Like trying to play Snooker with a piece of rope. bahaha. I just can't get too excited about any of this yet. You know Carver will still be involved in some capacity, as will the other two minions. I would guess the majority of decent managers interested would want their own backroom staff and not be keen to work with the three stooges. My first opinion on Vieira was a bit 'Alan Partridge shrug'. But the more I think about it, the more it interests me. I'm not even sure the link is genuine yet. Probably just more spin from the club. But it could potentially end up being a very good appointment. He's worked under some great managers, played at the top level his whole career for big clubs, always been a leader and he's been involved in some capacity in coaching and developing players the last few years. I would imagine he'd have a lot of contacts in the game and would be a big draw for a lot of players. TBH, even if he ended up being a bit average. It would probably definitely be more exciting than McLaren, Carver or any other random, tried and failed British coach. I'd rather we were after a coach from the continent that has more experience and is proven. But I think I'd be happy with Vieira if he got appointed. I can't see him accepting the terms set out by Ashley though. Or wanting to work with the complete mongs in that picture.

Messi's vision and passing is so good, that I think (hope) he'll still be world class once his pace has gone. Can easily see him dropping a bit deeper, dribbling a bit less, but just carving defences apart with through balls and diagonals. Whilst still weighing in with goals running from deep and curling in ridiculous long rangers. It's the argument I use when dealing with CR7 fanboys. That whilst Ronaldo is a flat track bully and the complete athlete. He will never be a footballing genius in the way Messi is. Once his pace has gone, I think he'll end up playing for PSG or in Turkey or somewhere for about 500 grand a week and just won't be the same. Obviously he may prove me wrong and to a degree my argument is based on what may happen over next 3, 4, 5+ years. But I think ultimately, Messi will go down in the history books as the better player due to the traits mentioned. I can really appreciate both and we're spoilt by having these two in their prime, really. But whilst they are different types of attacking players. Overall, Messi is out in front on his own IMO.

They ran towards a neutral area of the ground, which was mostly filled with Juve fans, those "neutral" fans were completely innocent victims no doubt about that and the guilt lies firmly with the Liverpool fans who did as you say run towards them. The wall itself was not fit forpurpose, but that wouldn't have been an issue had the Liverpool fans not behaved in the way they did. There were however a hell of a lot Juve hooligans as well, they were located at the other end of the stadium though well away from the Liverpool fans, those pictures of them masked and running onto the field were clearly shown on the TV, it was just a long way for them to get to the Liverpool fans. I remember watching it vividly. The Juve fans rioting at the other end of the pitch was after the wall had collapsed, it was in response to what had happened at the Liverpool/Neutral end, they had nothing to do with the disaster itself which was caused by a couple of hundred Liverpool fans in a crowd of almost 60K. The banners they had with them, the masks they used to conceal their faces, clearly showed they had premeditated something, if the roles had been reversed and these Juve fans had been located in the area the Liverpool hooligans had been with that ridiculous wall separating them from multitudes of Liverpool fans. I would not have been surprised if the situation would have happen again only in reverse. There was clearly ill feeling between the two sets of fans for some years, Liverpool were the kings of Europe while Juve were busy buying the best players on the continent to dethrone them.The rivalry had spilled over to violence and tension building throughout the day. Both teams had the hooligan element though, whether Juve fans were reacting to what happened or not, Juve fans just didn't turn into hooligans because of the tragedy, it was very much there and they were both looking for a fight. Anyone who went to see ourselves play in inter in the San Siro in the Champs League will testify that Italian football fans are no angels and apparently Liverpool fans had been subjected to some pretty awful treatment in the previous years final which had been ridiculously held in Rome against Roma. Again not exonerating Liverpool here, but trying to strike some balance. Good post. But the bit in bold is exactly what I was referring to when scousers make excuses about Heysel. What's that got to do with the price of fish? Hooliganism was common place in those times, hooligans from a different team, in a different city gave you a bit of a hiding. So you use that as some kind of excuse to kick off? Not buying it.

No doubt? Is there any evidence backing that up? As I read that there was allegedly a National Front involvement, hooligans from Chelsea or some London club. That was shot down in the article I read?

Assuming KI was referring to Hillsborough? In which case he is spot on. Pretty misinformed if he is on about Heysel, no?

Read a pretty harrowing article on this in GQ the other week (I was in the barbers, like I'm sophisticated enough to buy anything other than Nuts and Zoo). As if the game went ahead?! Seemed like plenty of people were at fault, with lots of different factors involved. But I think the silence from the city, LFC and their fans over the years is deafening. I’ve even tried to debate it with a couple of ‘actual’ scousers down here and they just brush it off. “Yeah well, it was revenge for what some Italian fans did to us over there and they started the fighting anyway….” Yeah, that excuses it then does it? Fans from a different club beat some of yours up, so you attacked men, women and children in the neutral section. I know it was a different time and hooliganism was rife. But it’s still abhorrent and disgusting behaviour from their so called ‘fans’. http://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/comment/articles/2015-05/29/heysel-stadium-disaster-30-anniversary

The interview was horrendous. So badly staged and scripted. Probably had a fucking autocue for all his bullshit and lies. I fucking hate this club at the minute. Didn’t even manage a full day of being happy/relieved that we stayed up. As I ended up watching this the morning after and it just reminded me how doomed we are. Another 5 years or more of, at best, mediocrity, shit managers and relegation scraps. Oh joy.

Good darts that. I'm not bad with betting on the nags (flat only) but I am the worst football punter ever So don't worry lads, we're staying up!

I'm having a bit on the West Ham win/draw and Hull win double. Pays around 5.5/1 I think. I won't mind losing money if we stay up. But I may as well profit if/when we get relegated.

I am somehow quietly confident. We can't rely on sunderland getting hammered twice and if Hull win and we only draw, we're down. So basically, only a win will do. May as well go for it, surely? Of course, whether Carver has the balls or ability to manage a win, remains to be seen. West Ham's season has been over for quite some time it would seem. Whilst Allardyce will be fired up to beat us and potentially send us down. I don't think his players will be quite so arsed, however. I also don't think Hull beat Man U. I can see a draw and that's it. Don't ask me why I am confident of getting a win. 1 point in 30 is hardly promising But I don't think it will matter anyway, as I can't see Hull winning. Pathetic situation to be in though. It really is horrendous. Compared to the last time we went down, I don't even feel bothered or nervous?! Perhaps I'm confusing my emotions, which is why I somehow seem chilled out about it all and think we'll stay up. Just a complete feeling of apathy about the whole club the last year or so. I just don't think I care either way anymore

God post St1pe. The last line may be a bit of a stumbling block though

If true, then fucking fair play! Doesn't matter if he is absolutely loaded. It's an insane amount of money and it's going to help massively. I have seen those videos of him off the pitch with the mascots and like the one above with the young lad trying to speak Portuguese. Seems like despite his arrogant demeanour and attitude on the pitch. He may actually be a really decent bloke.

Love this little Jersey Shore/Romany Gypsy looking mofo. Probably just echoing what others have said. But he is one of a small handful of decent players left at the club. One of the only likable ones as well!

We need some of their luck from that Everton game. With the complete lack of any creativity. We need someone to score with a flukey deflection and someone else with their hand to get us the 3 points to see us stay up. This is going to be another season, where our pathetic derby losses are going to see them stop up. They should love us by now. Can't even remember the last derby we won FFS :'(

Pah. More chance of us hiring Uriah Rennie as manager.

I think I have watched MAN DOWN Boateng about 100 times now. It gets funnier and funnier. It's not like Messi has just turned Titus Bramble inside out. He's just done that to a top level, champions league and world cup winning centre back! I can't get my head round the way he just goes down. It's like someone felling a tree.

Watching that game last night, I had mixed emotions. It seemed like a totally different sport to what NUFC play. Made me depressed at how shit we are and how pathetic our style of football is. I also then imagined Messi running at Williamson or Steven Taylor I'd pay good money to see that. Messi is a joke. The first goal was pretty impressive. As Neuer seemed unbeatable up until that point. The second was just insanely good. He then got an assist to cap the night off and kill the tie. Unbelievable player.

That statement about "further antagonising fans". I don't think it's possible to fuck off the fanbase any more than they already have. Some documentary highlighting our shady as fuck owner and his dodgy business practices is the least of my/our worries. We already know he's a cunt of a businessman and runs his shops, outlets and factories like a first world sweatshop. I think the years of mediocrity, shit football and cunt managers are more of a concern to the fans. The only thing that could make this worse is if we go down and then appoint shithouse Carver full time.

I honestly just cannot get over how bad he is all round, for someone that has been in pro football this long. That said, his goals per minutes ratio is pretty amazing this year. Strange after two years of nothing he starts banging them in. But he has been around 1 in 2 elsewhere before his move here. Urgh. I don't know what to think anymore.

The next 7 games, bar Villa. Holy fuck. Even Villa might prove difficult if they manage to get a new manager in. I'm sure we'll fluke a win against a top side, Pardew style and nobody will point to all the shit performances and hammerings because of it.

In the system they play yes. I think he's underrated TBH. Because he looks and sounds like a clogger. Not saying he's a natural finisher like Cisse mind. Cisse up top as a target man for Stoke? Aye, that would work.

I've absolutely stitched myself with the hypothetical top ten club thing as well. I don't think Stoke or Swansea are particularly decent. As if we're nearly in the top ten I'm sure the prem used to be better than this.

Starting regularly? No, I don't. Fair enough Swansea have lost Bony and Gomis has looked pony, so now he would get a game there. Weren't they rumoured to be interested at one point.