Mole_Toonfan

Decent window Would probably be the best window in the history of windows, in other words it would be so good not even Lee f*cking Ryder could ruin it. Although i want a CB, if we signed Debuchy and a CF i would still be freaking delighted with the summers work.

http://gingers4limpar.com/?p=2017&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter Quite a good read on whether Arsenal need to replace Song with a DM or not, it is rather long read but interesting none the less. Might not belong in here, but i couldn't think where else to put it.

Agreed but i also agree Gbandit that without Modric his effectiveness will be more limited. One of the keys was getting Adebayor in or replacing him with someone of equal/better quality, the other key was replacing Modric properly. If they do that then they are a team to be very concerned about, if not then they might struggle more than last year.

That's what i think as well, at least that's what i thought as soon as i found out about the Sep 28th deadline anyway. For some reason i thought he was already available for selection.

Ambition

This basically. Been put off him ever since he said that, prob a very good player but hard to be very fussed about a guy talking us down before anythings happened. Who says he's turned us down? if he has then i agree with you but as far as i'm aware Fulham are the only ones who have had an offer accepted by Twente.

Available if you pay the ridiculous money Montpellier want, which we won't.

What a c*nt btw

You just want to see transfers, mate. That much is painfully obvious. Not really, if i wanted to just merely see a transfer i would be for these rumours like Adam Johnson etc etc but i'm not because we don't need him. I'm for this transfer because it's something i feel we need and Pardew obviously does too as he has said so and we have put an offer in. Also i'm aware how far we have come in 2-3 years it's ridiculous i'm fully aware of this, Neville wheeling off the names last night saying how much how quality we have had me swelling with pride. I just think to improve on last year like Pardew has aimed for, then i'd like to see a CB and a RB. I'm not one of those guys that go just sign someone who i'll go and support someone else who does lark, i just think it's a signing if we did make it would improve us. What is wrong with that? Not liking i'm asking to sign players for signings sake, i'm talking about a player in a position where we are lacking, a player Pardew wants and a player we have put bids in for. It's all about what you'd like to see, mate. It's all based on assumption, as well. Have 'the management' not earned your trust in their judgement? Yes they have, i just think sometimes to get what you want you need to pay what the buyer wants. It's not like the difference in value is miles apart or they are asking for silly money like with De Jong, it's a tiny difference in football terms. Anyway i will look quite stupid if we end up buying him it won't be the end of the world if buy no one else for the rest of the window in fact not even close but it would be a missed opportunity.

You just want to see transfers, mate. That much is painfully obvious. Not really, if i wanted to just merely see a transfer i would be for these rumours like Adam Johnson etc etc but i'm not because we don't need him. I'm for this transfer because it's something i feel we need and Pardew obviously does too as he has said so and we have put an offer in. Also i'm aware how far we have come in 2-3 years it's ridiculous i'm fully aware of this, Neville wheeling off the names last night saying how much how quality we have had me swelling with pride. I just think to improve on last year like Pardew has aimed for, then i'd like to see a CB and a RB. I'm not one of those guys that go just sign someone who i'll go and support someone else who does lark, i just think it's a signing if we did make it would improve us. What is wrong with that? Not liking i'm asking to sign players for signings sake, i'm talking about a player in a position where we are lacking, a player Pardew wants and a player we have put bids in for.

We should pursuing Douglas and Debuchy, it's not like money is an issue and them combined is less than Carroll or De Jong.... Also there's no point relying on Saylor's fitness because he blatantly will get injured at some point. I don't want to be relying on Williamson and Perch for months at a time again, especially with the extra games.

Yeah that's what I mean though, Douglas may not want competition, he may want guaranteed first team football. I'm not saying that is the case mind. If we are to sign a centre back I would prefer that they were either of the highest quality (i.e Coloccini) to walk straight into our starting XI and improve us 10 fold, or they were young and willing to sit on the bench, but still able to provide decent cover or even stiff competition to Saylor and eventually take over Colo when he leaves. I don't know if Douglas falls into any of those categories. It's not like RB and ST where respectively we need a player to come straight in and improve us and a player to provide cover, at CB we have an excellent pairing already in place and acceptable cover in reserve. (I rambled a bit there but you get the idea) Fair enough if that's the case but it's not like Douglas is massively high profile like Sakho for example i don't think he will demand to start every game. He will want to start sure, but i don't think he will cause issues in the dressing room if he doesn't IMO.

And how many goals did we concede lol? plus the level of CL has arguably gone up since then.

Where did i say it was set in stone he would start over Saylor? i just said adding another quality player is necessary if we want to achieve CL football and continue to do so for seasons to come. As i said yesterday Douglas wouldn't just come in and usurp Saylor he would have to prove himself like others before him and perform better than Saylor to consistently start above him. Competition is healthy. Anyway i'm going to calm down now, as Douglas can't officially play for Holland until the 28th August so we have plenty of time to put an offer down for the player. But if we don't then Also i agree on Williamson being a good back up but not a first choice back up, if we bought Douglas his status on the squad would be where he should be IMO.

I wonder if this is the way it's being viewed. Colo, Taylor, Williamson, Perch, Good as our CB options, perhaps we think we can get by. Personally feel fullback and another attacker are more pressing needs, especially fullback. A CB would have been nice though. Williamson isn't good enough , Taylor is injury prone, Good is a kid, ok on Perch but if we are looking to qualify on CL football he should'nt be so high in the pecking order. CB should be very high on our list of priority's, it's an extremely weak position. If we miss out due to the sum of 500k it is f*cking stupid, same with if miss out on Debuchy due to the sum of 1m. Two obvious signings which would obviously improve us and two players we have tracked for a very long time and we miss out due to we don't want to pay an extra 1.5m for the both of them. It's f*cking retarded, i'm for getting deals but when the difference is so small especially when we already have had 5 million come into the club this summer we should just pay it. Especially when a club has agreed a fee for a player. Williamson was good enough to help us reach 5th? Also, you dont know what money has been allocated for each position we want to upgrade/improve. Paying that extra 1.5 mill or whatever might mean reducing what we have to spend on a full back or forward. Seems to me that some folk just want to sign players regardless of strategy and planning. Since we have been promoted Ashey, Decker, Pardew and Graham have made some great signings and have proven themselves great negotiators. You know full well that if we are to be a CL contender than Williamson should be nowhere near their team long-term...... Also regardless of strategy and planning? Pardew has admitted he's a target, we have put a bid in.... we clearly want him it's just obvious Mike has a set amount he will go to and he will go no further no matter if it's a penny more. Ofcourse they are great negotiators but you can't win everytime, sometimes you have to pay what the club wants. Missing out on Debuchy and Douglas for the combined amount of 1.5m would leave a horrible taste in my mouth. This is just an example of Mike always wanting to get a bargain and if he doesn't get it then he won't pay it, there's a balance to be had here.

Ah the usual argument when someone questions why we are not strengthening an obvious weak position with a quality player for the sake of small amounts BTW i don't play football manager

I wonder if this is the way it's being viewed. Colo, Taylor, Williamson, Perch, Good as our CB options, perhaps we think we can get by. Personally feel fullback and another attacker are more pressing needs, especially fullback. A CB would have been nice though. Williamson isn't good enough , Taylor is injury prone, Good is a kid, ok on Perch but if we are looking to qualify on CL football he should'nt be so high in the pecking order. CB should be very high on our list of priority's, it's an extremely weak position. If we miss out due to the sum of 500k it is f*cking stupid, same with if miss out on Debuchy due to the sum of 1m. Two obvious signings which would obviously improve us and two players we have tracked for a very long time and we miss out due to we don't want to pay an extra 1.5m for the both of them. It's f*cking retarded, i'm for getting deals but when the difference is so small especially when we already have had 5 million come into the club this summer we should just pay it. Especially when a club has agreed a fee for a player.

We should be in for both.

Going to miss out on another player for the sake of 500k-1m

Kristan Heneage ‏@KHeneage Seems #NUFC are going to have to be fast if they want Douglas. VI reporting fee agreed with Fulham and his agent has reportedly flown over.

Laudrup did a great did at Getafe and i have rated him as a manager ever since, unfortunately he didn't stay at clubs long enough like already said. I'm very confident how ever if he stays for a significant period at Swansea he can take them further than Rodgers ever could.

What makes you think Douglas would be a disruptive influence? The only dodgy incident people keep referring to when it comes to his mental state was when he went berserk after being sent off when the opposition player dived. Basically Pepe then, sign him up you can never have enough c*nts.

Because we are expecting bids don't mean we will get them and even if we did it doesn't mean we will accept them.

Im hoping the opposite to the norm happens now and Everton have a poor 2nd half of the season, no offense Neil

Every club chasing CL football needs 3 quality CB's atm we have two and one is injury prone, we have enough squad players and young back ups but not a genuine quality CB who can push Taylor for a spot. I don't expect Douglas to walk in and drop Taylor without a word spoken, he will have to push his way in. Competition is healthy and quite frankly if we are to qualify for the CL like Pardew says we are trying to do we need another quality CB amongst other things. Just a mere decent CB who would be happy to sit on the bench isn't good enough IMO and we already have those anyway.