Mole_Toonfan

Yes he is, we would probably take them up on their offer if the Debuchy deal falls through. Would think he will end up at Milan if we get Debuchy, unless of course Chelsea do get him, he was heavily linked with them not so long ago. Not sure tbh, i think after his disastrous performance at the Euros a lot of the big clubs are taken a step back from pursuing him. He definitely has talent, in possession and going forward but he hasn't really improved defensively since he broke in the national team. A risk CL clubs are not likely take, but us with our seemingly damaged goods policy might very well take such a risk. But that would only happen if Debuchy joined someone else.

Yes he is, we would probably take them up on their offer if the Debuchy deal falls through.

Really? i expected him to be apart of the development squad tbh, didn't expect him to be apart of the main squad or effect transfers for the main squad. Mind you i thought the same about Bigi and it seems he has a role to play at least.

So i'm the only one who has never heard of him then?

Would love to see this bit if Debuchy/Carroll signs. Great news tbh, i'm also shocked by the length of the contract by it shows how much confidence the club has in the lad and hopefully he lives up to that confidence. Would be great to see Debuchy also come in by the end of the week, Ba clause ending, Debuchy and Good signings would make for one awesome week .

That's nearly 4 Cabaye's

I cant believe it's been 3 years already i was shocked and sad when he died and smiled when i saw the statue of him outside SJP. Not only is he one of the best manager's we have ever had, but also one of the best people to grace not just Newcastle but Football in general. R.I.P Sir Bobby, gone but never forgotten.

Considering how many times we watched Ajax last season i think Pardew knows all about him by now tbh

Bit like Santon before we signed him then Aye the scenario's are very similar, would much prefer Debuchy but if that doesn't happen for what ever reason then i wouldn't have any issues with Cissokho.

Seems like to me they are just basically copying the Talksport report.

He scored 10 goals in 54 games in 2007-08 in the season where he played LB when Baines hardly played due to injury. You can keep arguing it all you want but they are facts

There's also a stat that we have won over 60% of our games with Williamson, it really doesn't mean anything. Also as i mentioned before Lescott got hype at Everton based off the season where he scored over 10 goals as a LB which is where most of his good and consistent performances came. I'm not denying Lescott is a good defender, he is but he isn't CL level as last season showed and Agger is as he's shown many times. I really get the feeling Agger is not rated on here because A. he plays for Liverpool B. He's constantly injured. Lescott is a lot like Vermealen IMO, two defenders who are technically good and score a decent amount of goals for a defender but both are in a positional sense wise very rash, it's funny Agger's supposed lack of positional sense is brought up because that's the exact thing Lescott struggles with. Totally, totally, totally wrong. Baffled as to why you are trying to tell me about his best performances at Everton when I'm a season ticket holder there. Does'nt mean your right though does it just like you could correct me something about Newcastle doesn't automatically mean you would be wrong. The season when Lescott scored 10+ goals he played the majority at LB because Baines was injured ( only making 20 appearances) and he got a lot of hype through his goalscoring performances and you had Yobo and Jags at CB for the majority of games. Which is one of the reasons City spent all that money on him, he actually was used as a LB at City at first because of this before they decided to buy some natural LB's. It wasn't the season he left, he still had another season at Everton but that was the season that got people interested in the first place.... the following season he played CB.

Anything more than 10m for Carroll is a bad deal, it only looks good because how stupid Liverpool would have looked but if you ignore that anything more than that and it's an awful deal for so many reasons. Luckily i'm confident we wouldn't be that stupid.

There's also a stat that we have won over 60% of our games with Williamson, it really doesn't mean anything. Also as i mentioned before Lescott got hype at Everton based off the season where he scored over 10 goals as a LB which is where most of his good and consistent performances came. I'm not denying Lescott is a good defender, he is but he isn't CL level as last season showed and Agger is as he's shown many times. I really get the feeling Agger is not rated on here because A. he plays for Liverpool B. He's constantly injured. Lescott is a lot like Vermealen IMO, two defenders who are technically good and score a decent amount of goals for a defender but both are in a positional sense wise very rash, it's funny Agger's supposed lack of positional sense is brought up because that's the exact thing Lescott struggles with.

Taylor was better than Lescott before his injury, he is'nt as good as Kompany makes him. Put anyone competent next to Kompany and they will shine. Lescott is the Williamson to Kompany's Coloccini, of course he's much better than Williamson but he still is'nt anywhere near " top class ". Yes Lescott and Kompany have a good partnership in the League, but in the CL they were exploited as a partnership, which is why City are looking for someone better than Lescott who can give them a better chance of competing in the CL. Agger has proven to be able to handle the best attacks around for Liverpool in the CL and for Denmark at the Euros, if he was just merely " good " then Barcelona wouldn't want him. He's class, but unfortunately he's also glass.

They are relying on Carroll helping them stay up and use the massive increase in TV money that comes in next season to pay for it. Which is why the permanent deal is based on them staying up supposedly.

We will never match that in a million years. considering it was said we'd never go after him in the first place not in a million years I say suspend all disbelief and wait and see what happens True, but i really doubt we would even pay 15m for Carroll matter about 19m. I'm not concerned about us trying to match it at all if we were prepared to spend that much we would have pushed the boat out for De Jong.

We will never match that in a million years.

Does seems like that, the whole situation of Rodgers practically forcing him out seems to have forced him into a situation where he has to at the very least consider West Ham.

I think he probably already has, i doubt Liverpool would have agreed a deal with West Ham without Carroll agreeing the move before hand. given he's said he will only go on loan to a team in Europe and well this is Liverpool I have my doubts Understand that, but seems a bit strange to accept a deal for someone only for the player to reject the deal and the move subsequently called off.

I think he probably already has, i doubt Liverpool would have agreed a deal with West Ham without Carroll agreeing the move before hand.

Midnight tomorrow and its all over. Yeah i know, that's why i brought it up. What ever will they talk about now.

I'm starting to wonder how the media can possibly continue without Ba's release clause to talk about every hour on the hour.

Speaking of which, i think Colo is capable of scoring more goals than he does. Doesn't really matter as he's a CB and not a CF but he definitely is capable of around 5 a season IMO.