Sean

Not really surprising given his character tbh.

IF we don't have Kenedy or Merino in the squad next season then we've got a lot of work to do just to be as strong as we were at the end of last season. Add in a 'modest' budget and Ashley/Barnes into the mix and its no wonder Rafa's not signing a new deal. Think it's gonna be a long and painful summer tbh.

They are also paying 100% of the costs associated with it. For comparison, SD's operating margins are around 9% historically. But they still make profit on things like this. You're going on as if Ashley is doing us a favour with tricks like this ffs.

Doesn't that economic profit figure include the impact of player purchases? (I assume its final profit loss everything included). While in the Premier League over the course of those 7 seasons shown we've spent about £250 and sold about £170m. Its really the idiot getting us relegated twice that's meant we've had to sell more players to cover loss of TV money (we obviously sold far more than we spent in the two Championship seasons). This current season our revenue should be between £160m and £170m. Thats £30-£40m higher than its ever been before and twice what it was in most of the seasons included in that chart. I think as long as we're in the Premier League he has no excuse not to provide cash to Benitez on top of player sales. I really don't know if it does or not. I'm just posting the info really - with a filter applied. I'm commenting on what I think I understand from the figures whilst filtering out everything I don't. The most obvious thing is that Ashley's team have presented these figure in a very positive light for the masses. The real accountants, and anyone doing due dilligence that understand the football accounts business, will see a very different picture I fear. Ergo we're not getting sold anytime soon. You can certainly make individual accounts look better or worse than they really are regarding profit/loss but over that number of years (on that chart) its going to even out and show the real picture no matter how you manipulate it. Also while some accounts probably have been made to look better than they really are some have clearly been made to look worse. One obvious example is our last set of accounts. True losses for that season in the Championship were around £30m, but some costs were brought forward from this year which made it look like we lost over £60m. But you can also take most of the profit out of a company through things such as outsourcing, as well as giving away free advertising worth millions etc etc. End of the day we should be bringing in much more money but clearly our owner doesn't want that.

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Now that is worthy of winning the final

So typical Liverpool

Oh my fucking god.

What a fucking idiot.

Thanks. Debt in 2015 was £129 million and in 2016 was £131.1 million I believe. So it should be roughly the same now(I'm missing out last season here aren't I?). All self inflicted by Ashley of course. Another 10 years and a few more relegations and we might owe him more than the clubs actually worth.

So in reality the debt owed to should have actually decreased by £3m? I wish even one journalist would start seriously looking into our accounts against Ashleys spin. Does it state anywhere in the accounts how much was currently owed at that point in time?

Tammy Abraham on loan to someone like Brighton. Good shout, we can't be expected to compete with the finances of Brighton now can we?

Never gonna change, he's a fucking cunt and no matter what anyone says I have for a long time and still do believe he's got it in for us and loves ruining our hopes and dreams.

I wonder which of Rafas realistic signings we'll deliberately mess up first? I'll go for Josh King.

And that's the crux of the issue, it's not that the price is too high for what they get, it's that either something is putting off potential buyers or there are simply not any people in the market for these kind of investments anymore, like loveitifwebeatu pointed out above. If it's the latter then the only fix is to drop the price until there is a market, which has already been established by PCP's bid to be around 300 - 350 mill. If it's the former then what is ? Are investor put off by something in the books, the fan base, the lack of potential for the club, what ? Clearly Ashley is not aggressively looking to sell otherwise a deal with PCP would have happened they are so close on price, bridging that gap shouldn't be hard if there was real desire on both ends. I just can't see the desire for him to keep putting himself in the radar for hate as people expect action from him that he clearly doesn't want to do, it's quite bizarre. He's getting brand exposure but that brand is taking a huge beating while he is owner of our football club. That's why I have always expected that a deal would go through at some point but now it seems more unlikely than ever. Like I said previously , we won't be this desirable an asset for anyone ever again, this is our small window of opportunity. But I'm still pretty sure £400 million is overvaluing us by a fairly significant percentage, when you take into account other fairly recent recent PL sales. The TV deal didn't shoot up hugely or anything. The increase in TV money has to go on players and wage inflation in order to keep up (unless you are Mike Ashley). Also, the facilities at the training centre are a joke which needs major investment. I agree that the exposure is hardly good, but maybe he just doesn't care or even actively gets off on this? Look at his appearance in front of that inquiry into Sports Direct, turning up with pockets stuffed with £50 notes? I'll only believe he's interested in selling us when it's done.

If its such a fair price then he'll have no problem finding a buyer right?

I think the important point is that Rafa clearly wants 2 experienced PL quality keepers here. Unfortunately we all know how this owner operates. The thought of having an inexperienced kid and Elliot for half a season if something bad happened to Dubravka doesn't bear thinking about really.

And how many are going to swallow it and carry on giving him cash? Fuck him, I'm out! If Rafa leaves Im out too.

Wow just seen the statement. It basically amounts to "I'm going to continue to be the same cunt as always"

Great end to the season. All 3 of Rafa's seasons have had great final days.

FYP

He's had such a positive impact on the defence as well as being a massive upgrade between the sticks. Coincidentally, I can't remember him spooning the ball out of play deep in our half once, he's so good with his feet and calm under pressure. Almost unquantifiable how much pressure we've been relieved of from that. Such a contrast to our other options.

It'd be fitting for Rafa to get the top half finish he deserves.

Fucking unbelievable set piece!

Absolutely love Dubravka