Sean

that was me during the euro's, my betting career has done nothing but advance since joining in on this thread, stay I will, I'm gonna need all the help and advice I can get!

Who's generally the most successful then? Or is the last couple of days (well, wednesday-saturday) on here typical?

Had £30 on us to win as I was confident that today would be the day that we finally clicked, only just scraped that one! Also £3 on this: 1 Draw Everton v Liverpool (Full Time Result) 28/10/2012 None 23/10 Won 2 Newcastle Newcastle v West Brom (Full Time Result) 28/10/2012 None 19/20 Won 3 Tottenham Southampton v Tottenham (Full Time Result) 28/10/2012 None 4/5 Won 4 Draw Chelsea v Man Utd (Full Time Result) 28/10/2012 None 12/5 To Run Was going so well until the ref decided to be a c***. Only just started betting, it makes watching football much more meaningful. And annoying at times.

Sorry must have quoted the wrong post by accident, meant to quote one by Dave. Done it again!

WTF??? Looked like Torres was taken out at first...even on the replay it's debatable.

Bayern Munich just gone behind.

My thoughts exactly.

Poor game by his standards, but he gets little to no support from the rest of the team.

Jammy us!!! I had money on us to win too!!

Their movements been so so much better than ours. We can't even put 2 passes together ffs. A season of mediocrity beckons.

Absolutely woeful performance.

Wrong thread. Lets at least win playing good attacking football today!

Got this off an Arsenal supporting mate so not sure if true but... Some facts about Fergie: 1. Alex was not happy with Foy after tottenham game, Foy referees a League Two game. #FACT 2. Mike Dean, referee, when Blackburn beat Utd 2-3, hasn't refereed a Utd game since. #FACT 3. Mike Dean - referee, in 2010, after Utd's defeat to Chelsea, was demoted to the Championship. #FACT 4. Wiley, called "fat and unfit" by Alex after Utd's draw with Sunderland, "agreed to retire" that season. #FACT 5. Clattenburg (1-6 to City) hasn't refereed a single United game after that Manchester derby. #FACT 6. Martin Atkinson - Involved in Utd's defeat to Chelsea, criticized by Alex, hasn't refereed Utd since. #FACT 7. Ex ref Jeff Winter openly stating that he hadn't been given a United game for 2 years after sending Keane off. #FACT 8. Howard Webb has been United's most used referee since the defeat to Manchester City. #FACT 9. More than 18% of the penalties Webb has awarded in his 8 year career have been to United. #FACT 10. United's CEO is on the board of the English FA. #FACT Still think we're likely to be on the receiving end of at least one bad decision tomorrow (penalty / red card) but I'm still confident we can get a result.

Ferguson > Cisse - Goal!! Again! Waddle doesn't understand the offside rule, what a surprise!!

Whats happened to Obertan? Good cross for a change, well done. Waddle still spouting s****. "Poor finish"

long way off yet Up there with Pedro in terms of talent. agree but we have had some s*** hot talent here over the years...i think the lad can become a world beater but he we be doing it at sjp sadly. He's a world beater right now.

Tiote scares me doing that, just clear it man!

More magic from Hatem!!

Think we're the only club he's left that he has a soft spot for tbf, judging by the comments on his twitter a week or so ago about missing playing at St James Park, proper club, proper fans etc I think he said. Nolan, don't even want to get talking about was he good or not, always gave 100% for us, scored some goals and was part of the team that established us as a proper premier league team. I'm sure he will get a great reception to be honest, and I'm sure he'll give our fans a great reception too.

Yeah, slightly surprised that Pardew has suggested that some players' "heads were turned" by interest, and creates a bit of a guessing game as to who he could be talking about. The only player who hasen't been 100% in my opinion is Cabaye, who has looked sluggish compared to what we have become accustomed to from him. Tiote has been injured. Ben Arfa has started in great form, looking up for the games. Ba has looked good. Cisse looks like he needs a goal to kick him off again. I would question why Pardew would say these things though, as all it will do is make us fans question who he is talking about? We have kept all our big players, we don't want to hear that heads have been turned. So in my opinion, it can only be aimed inwards, i.e. it's to get a reaction from some of the players. But still, it suggests that some did have their heads turned.

I think 7th or 8th, voted 7th. Shame because even having bought Debuchy I think we could have pushed on, as it would have at least given us some sort of boost on the last day. We do look really weak up top in the event of even 1 injury. Think it will depend largely on how our players view this summer, i.e. are they going to get disillusioned at the lack of incomings? Although, to be honest, we had a great season last year, and have not lost any key members of the team, so with an extra year of bonding, why can we not do just as good? Sometimes it's best not to expect the world, we just might be pleasantly surprised. Santon has a years PL experience, Ben Arfa is starting from the get-go, Cisse is here from the start, with any luck Steven Taylor will play a full season, Marveaux is fit, Hell even Cabaye has a years PL experience behind him now. Plus the whole team has a years experience of playing together. We haven't brought much in, but we should be a more coherent team this season. Can I change my prediction...looking at it like that, I really don't see why we can't do another 5th place finish. Think top 4 is still out of reach, but why should we fear anyone?

Best thing about this season is we have a fully-fit Ben Arfa from the get go, not many teams could even dream of having such a talent in their line-up. I can't wait to see a full season from him.

Don't worry, he'll leave on page 847. Page 847 of the 5th Ben Arfa thread and I'll be OK with that!