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If I was MD at BT I'd be sacking the person that made that decision. Absolutely staggering that someone has chosen that game to be televised.

It’s unbelievable what this regime have done to our fans isn’t it? Totally saddening and sickening. The fat w***** has literally squeezed the passion out of the majority of us. I usually receive about 20 messages now either by text or on Sleazebook asking for spares and I only had a few this time around which says it all. The build-up has been the most low-key I have ever know. Can't believe it's come to this where I can't even be arsed with the derby. In the past I've finished with girlfriends because they've moaned on that I spent too much time and money following NUFC, I even quit a good job because they wouldn't give me time off to go to Roma away. Been all over Europe watching them (bumped into your good self many times in the process) and now I just can't be bothered with it all as when you sit down and think about it, it's just a pointless excercise supporting them now. I'm not bothered about winning trophies, no Newcastle fan should be, but the fact the club admit that they don't even try to compete (Leicester away being the most recent example) and that mid table in the league with a nice profit is the ultimate goal makes the whole thing a waste of time. It's uncompetitive and in all honesty totally boring. No wonder the crowd just sit in complete silence at home games these days because win, lose or draw in the grand scheme of things it makes no difference so there's nowt to shout about. It won't change until the fat parasite is gone but that's going to take years and by then it'll be too late. Spot on. I'm beyond caring now and the build up to this derby sums it up well. There's been nothing at all. No bickering or nerves, just both sets of fans totally subdued because of two pathetic football clubs.

Has he really f***ed them over or did he save them ?? Where'd they be without his loans ?? He's fucked them man. Long term contracts that they can't get out of and loans came with massive benefits to him. King could have been in a lot earlier if it wasn't for Ashley.

On the 31st Jan they were 2nd, 16pts from 1st and 6pts from 5th (with 3 games in hand) (wouldn't get in playoffs) http://www.statto.com/football/stats/scotland/championship/2014-2015/table/2015-01-31 Today they are 3rd, 26pts from 1st and 9pts from 5th (1 game in hand) http://www.statto.com/football/stats/scotland/championship/2014-2015/table/2015-03-28 What a turnaround! Aye but the team was depleted and they looked awful. Recent events off the pitch and the win over Hibs has really boosted morale. Things are looking much better now than they were in Jan.

It's an absolute scandal what they've been doing at Newcastle. But, we welcome them with open arms and even allow them to attend games with not a word muttered. SUPORT DA TEEM NOT DA REGEEYM PAL!

I'm not an expert by any stretch but I just don't trust Ashley and his mates. There's always a way to fiddle no matter what the size of the company.

PWC have been corrupt for years to be fair.

It's an absolute scandal what they've been doing at Newcastle. But, we welcome them with open arms and even allow them to attend games with not a word muttered.

I take it you've never used an accountant before then. Correct I haven't used an accountant before because I am one. The NUFC accounts,by law, require an independent audit and as such are a far cry from, for example, a trader fiddling a tax return. For a company it is perfectly possible to manipulate profits and losses by subjective use of accounting policies but cash in bank and documented loans are not a moveable feast I'm afraid. Every accountant I've came across is dodgy as fuck so I'll take your expert opinion as fact.

I take it you've never used an accountant before then.

I was at a mini talk in with Micky Quinn last night and he absolutely slated Hodgson. Literally called him "fucking shite".

Steve McClaren has done very well for the majority of his career. He wouldn't exactly set the world alight but he'd be a solid choice and a hell of a lot better than the misery I've endured over the last 5 year.

Same. And same. Twice in two posts I'm agreeing with Ronnie but Laurent Robert is definitely the best I've seen. Simply magnificent.

How can this be? He makes some of the most erudite points on this forum.

I took my figures from a credit report from both experian and credit safe using the latest entered accounts dated 31 December 2013. As I stated, those were the accounts for the UK company (Company Registration: 03223028). Bringing up a companies accounts from the USA in relation to Newcastle Uniteds forthcoming accounts isn't relevant. To be honest, it’s pointless comparing accounts from other industries.

No - cash flow is. Profit is simply an accounting term. You can do a level of magic on a profit/loss account. You can make profit and have no cash, and vice versa. Amazon doesn't turn a profit but has way more cash than us. Like I said earlier, the accounts for 99% of companies are pure lies. Saying Amazon doesn't turn a profit is a load of shite though - the UK company, amazon.co.uk Ltd had a profit of £12,926,000 after tax in their last entered accounts and their cash balance was £1,000. So aye, as much as accounts are bollocks, you're also talking bollocks.

No businesses accounts are the truth anyway so it's all complete guesswork.

Operating profit/loss is intrinsic to what the club can afford to do. If the club is hemorrhaging £30m a year before player trading, then players have to be sold to plug that leak. If the club is just about breaking even then players have to be sold before we can buy. If the club is earning £30m, then we can spend that on players before we sell anyone. That's not true like, not at all. Amortisation which hits that profit isn't cash hemorrhaging out of the club (especially as these days the transfer fee is usually paid up front). You don't have to desperately sell players to cover the amortisation loses to stop the debt growing. If the club is breaking even after amortisation, then it will almost certainly have a decent positive cashflow (ie money which could be used to pay off debt, buy players without selling, or sit in the bank). This operating profit/loss before player trading is a false position to use when you're talking about how much the club has to spend. But then you're getting into complex accounting practices most people aren't interested in, and I struggle with myself. But I can follow that through to some degree.... In 13/14 we sold Cabaye for £19m and bought no-one, most would call that a £19m profit, but it wasn't, amortisation came into play as in my previous pic and the player trading for the year actually showed a profit on £16.9m. A couple of million less than people would assume. In 14/15 keeping it simple we spent £37m but recouped £18.3m, which means we spent £19.1m. However accounting for amortisation, the actual accounting profits on those sold were... Debuchy +£6.36 Mbiwa +£1.24 Santon +£1.74 Ben Arfa -£0.73 Giving a total of just £8.62m recouped, ten million less than the laymans view. That means our net spend in 14/15 was more like £29m. £10m more than most assume. We received money for Pardew as well.

Surely you're on a wind up?

Cabaye was sold in 13/14 an earlier financial year. 14/15 then saw the largest net spend and the largest gross spend under Ashley. http://41.media.tumblr.com/2a0beee0e12fb1801fd2a2ac2cb96260/tumblr_nlo1kbruEf1u89ei4o1_400.png Don't know where you get £40m from. £14.7m up on transfer fees over Ashley's time. Who gives a flying fuck man? I follow football because it's entertaining, I certainly don't follow the game to run the rule over balance sheets. Remember the days when no one took a ha'porth of notice what the accounts looked like.

Llambias has been attacked twice in Glasgow.

Berahino

Really sad stuff this.

Sent the wrong man off again. Refs are getting worse

If this sounds good in Latin, we could make it our f***ing motto. Aestate rei probatio est , ut ego arbitror - not too bad.