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Table could look drastically different in 4 games time. I can't help but wonder how things would have been if we would have got a good manager in the summer. We are so near to challenging for a europa league spot but so far at the same time.

11 points with after our fixtures is not good. Winning today would have made them only ok imo. Yup this is how i feel too.

3 points off the relegation zone and some people thought we'd made a decent start to the season

Time to talk to victor valdes city

He's been shit for awhile though. Personally I won't judge any of our players until they are coached and managed by someone who is competent.

Pardew is on about 2 million per year fwiw

Yea it is sadly. Pardew give us a wave ...

Question, Does anyone actually think that performance was acceptable? If yes why?

QFT. Let's line these fucking ducks up.

Glad we all agree that we created fuck all.

Newcastle United refuse to take questions from Chronicle following derby defeat NUFC manager Pardew was gagged by his press officer in front of the national media following this afternoon's 2-1 defeat on Wearside Alan Pardew refused to take questions from the Chronicle, Journal and Sunday Sun after Newcastle United's 2-1 loss to Sunderland . The club believe that the Chronicle's coverage of the the Mike Ashley protest before the game with Liverpool was too harsh. And subsequently, Pardew was gagged by his Press officer in front of the national media after the painful reverse on Wearside as he lost his second successive derby. However, Pardew did say to the rest of the Press pack: "We had two or three good chances at 1-1. "If we'd taken one it could have been different. "Unfortunately we didn't get it. "They had one chance in the second half and smashed it in." Pardew was then asked questions by both the Journal and Chronicle but before answering the questions was stopped by club Press officer Wendy Taylor who said: "Sorry you can't ask any questions." Pardew was then asked by the national media why he wouldn't answer questions but did not respond. He did go on to say: "I feel really disappointed for our fans. "And for the team, they didn't deserve that. "They deserved to win." Pardew was then asked again by the Chronicle to answer a question but was stopped for a second time by the club's Press officer. It is understood that the decision to ban the Chronicle and sister titles was made collectively by Alan Pardew, Joe Kinnear, Lee Charnley, John Irving and Mike Ashley http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/newcastle-united-refuse-take-questions-6246275

Thank him for what? waiting for the shit hit the fan to start speaking the truth?

They won't though. Ashley is rich will sell on his terms only. The bank don't own a piece of the club like they did Liverpool. We are fucked until Ashley has bled us dry sadly

As if Anita doesn't get a look in. Ridiculous. Why send your best player from the first half dozen games on when you can send Shola on to play in midfield instead? Pardew Logic. Aye a ridiculous decision but you just knew it was the tactic of Shola dropping in the flick on direct balls to Cisse. Which i might add has never ever worked between those two......EVER. This is what I don't understand, why do the players keep pumping it long surely they could see it wasn't working? It's truly baffling isn't it. But we did it most of last season. Tbf it's been much better this season but why resort to it because Sunderland started the game ok. Just keep playing and the quality will win most of the time. Hoofing with players it doesn't suit is mental. I think Pardew likes to fight Fire with Fire. He's done it before when we've been up against a big team. And for the umpteenth time that ploy hasn't worked against a crap team. Pardew is a thick f***er like. We've played some decent stuff this season at times and should have stuck with it against the worst team in the league. Swansea showed if you play and stick with it you will turn over crap like Sunderland. Pardew is at panic stations against them, just useless. Exactly mate, but we both knew this day would be around soon. We've given him credit when he got us decent result but you can't polish a turd. I've been saying that, eventually his averageness will drag us down. He just isn't good enough at this level. Like many have said though, i dread who Kinnear will appoint. I think it'll be Kinnear more than Ashley who chooses the manager imo. I think your being generous calling him average to be honest. I'm faster getting to the stage with Pardew where it's "anyone but Pardew" I can't imagine playing under him and having any sort of self belief. I agree but the "anyone but Pardew" scares the s*** out of me. Not that i want Pardew to stay mind. Me too but let's face it. Being worse than Pardew would take some doing. The only football manager I know without any sort of football philosophy

As if Anita doesn't get a look in. Ridiculous. Why send your best player from the first half dozen games on when you can send Shola on to play in midfield instead? Pardew Logic. Aye a ridiculous decision but you just knew it was the tactic of Shola dropping in the flick on direct balls to Cisse. Which i might add has never ever worked between those two......EVER. This is what I don't understand, why do the players keep pumping it long surely they could see it wasn't working? It's truly baffling isn't it. But we did it most of last season. Tbf it's been much better this season but why resort to it because Sunderland started the game ok. Just keep playing and the quality will win most of the time. Hoofing with players it doesn't suit is mental. I think Pardew likes to fight Fire with Fire. He's done it before when we've been up against a big team. And for the umpteenth time that ploy hasn't worked against a crap team. Pardew is a thick f***er like. We've played some decent stuff this season at times and should have stuck with it against the worst team in the league. Swansea showed if you play and stick with it you will turn over crap like Sunderland. Pardew is at panic stations against them, just useless. Exactly mate, but we both knew this day would be around soon. We've given him credit when he got us decent result but you can't polish a turd. I've been saying that, eventually his averageness will drag us down. He just isn't good enough at this level. Like many have said though, i dread who Kinnear will appoint. I think it'll be Kinnear more than Ashley who chooses the manager imo. I think your being generous calling him average to be honest. I'm faster getting to the stage with Pardew where it's "anyone but Pardew" I can't imagine playing under him and having any sort of self belief.

The second coming of Christ

Knowing our luck he'd survive the c***.

As if Anita doesn't get a look in. Ridiculous. Why send your best player from the first half dozen games on when you can send Shola on to play in midfield instead? Pardew Logic. Aye a ridiculous decision but you just knew it was the tactic of Shola dropping in the flick on direct balls to Cisse. Which i might add has never ever worked between those two......EVER. This is what I don't understand, why do the players keep pumping it long surely they could see it wasn't working? It's truly baffling isn't it. But we did it most of last season. Tbf it's been much better this season but why resort to it because Sunderland started the game ok. Just keep playing and the quality will win most of the time. Hoofing with players it doesn't suit is mental. I think Pardew likes to fight Fire with Fire. He's done it before when we've been up against a big team. And for the umpteenth time that ploy hasn't worked against a crap team. Pardew is a thick f***er like. We've played some decent stuff this season at times and should have stuck with it against the worst team in the league. Swansea showed if you play and stick with it you will turn over crap like Sunderland. Pardew is at panic stations against them, just useless. Exactly mate, but we both knew this day would be around soon. We've given him credit when he got us decent result but you can't polish a turd.

The same new manager bounce they had last week when they let 4 in without reply? That's a joke of a reason and it doesn't hold water. English core, what difference has that made before? It's only used if we lose and isn't when we win with the same mix of players. An English core is bollocks, we had more of an English core than against a much better Liverpool side but we weren't up for this game. As for home game, isn't it the only home game they've actually won this season. Why hasn't home advantage helped them before today? Must win game, it should have been for both teams. A kid at centreback, OK, we did have but he was 1 player out of 11. If we'd played more to go at them instead of starting slow that wouldn't have even come into it. Pardew tried to be clever up front and he isn't good enough to do that, he's clueless. First home game for their new manager in a derby. They were always going to come out at 110mph. The last time we played them with an english core we smashed them. Coincidence? Yes. Ok let's swap Bardsley for Debuchy, Cabaye for Colback, Krul For Westwood. The difference is we have a manager who is shit scared of going out and taking the game by the scruffs of it's neck. Belittling our great club and talking up our opponents is more his game.

As if Anita doesn't get a look in. Ridiculous. Why send your best player from the first half dozen games on when you can send Shola on to play in midfield instead? Pardew Logic. Aye a ridiculous decision but you just knew it was the tactic of Shola dropping in the flick on direct balls to Cisse. Which i might add has never ever worked between those two......EVER. This is what I don't understand, why do the players keep pumping it long surely they could see it wasn't working? It's truly baffling isn't it. But we did it most of last season. Tbf it's been much better this season but why resort to it because Sunderland started the game ok. Just keep playing and the quality will win most of the time. Hoofing with players it doesn't suit is mental. I think Pardew likes to fight Fire with Fire. He's done it before when we've been up against a big team.

Holy s***. Was their coverage at all scathing of the regime? Nope they just reported it was happening. notice how the club doesn't ban the nationals, Bullying c***s. Didn't realise The Telegraph was a NE paper. Wasn't aware the Telegraph was banned?

We can start with throwing a weeks worth of training away after 20 minutes if you like ian I don't get you. Didn't we improve after 20 minutes? And we're much better in the second half? Improve? we didn't create anything and again we hobbled ourselves by putting sissoko on the flank to accommodate a system which doesn't suit us. Ian the point is the man is a coward who has no conviction whatsoever and that isn't difficult to analyse.

Holy s***. Was their coverage at all scathing of the regime? Nope they just reported it was happening. notice how the club doesn't ban the nationals, Bullying cunts.

We can start with throwing a weeks worth of training away after 20 minutes if you like ian

You have to create things to win a game. We didn't create anything for 90 minutes against the worse team in the league. I agree, I get your point, but we had our best attacking players out there, switching positions, two more strikers coming on, and they created less chances then against any other team so far it seemed. That's not just down to Pardew, they were simply not on their game today (and no, that's not just down to Pardew either). Whose fault is it then? Ultimately? Is he not the one chiefly responsible for what happens on the pitch? Our off the ball movement especially has been so poor since Pardew came in. I'm sure you all see the entire team stop when Ben Arfa has the ball. Part of me thinks the way we defend leads to our players being knackared when we get the ball. How many times have you watched us press but it's always in isolation? 1 player presses and the rest of the team drop right off and leave the opposition with a simple pass.