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they never show much of the bt game on goals on sunday because they aint allowed but they pretty much covered it,missed Gouf and Willos air shots when they should of scored and header from the Willo diagonal

I cant see Ben Arfa wanting to stay if everyone hates him and he unsettles its U Alan U don't want him back in the group because ur a ego mad fuckwit.

was there any anti Pardew chants? Lots of booing after that disgraceful sub late on - plenty of moaning about him but no real songs sadly! don't worry it will come again, ill try start a some at Southampton in couple weeks. Glad most of our away support still believes in Ben Arfa, chants came across loud on tv

was there any anti Pardew chants?

fuck stream went down what he say about Ben Arfa??

fucks sake, do we have to lob it in every free kick from any angle play it short,make a better angle Pardew u twat

good play by Gouf for a change

fuck off gouf

why is Colback floating it in when Cabella can whip in a decent cross?

It seems so. 2mins thats generous,what was the fucking point sending a camera team to ask one question about fuckin Ozil which was obviously given by production

what is this shit just rotating the guests to talk about balotelli over an over

hes 40 -1 be next manager of palace on skybet, same odds as being manager of the year

we need to lose, Pardew would have lost 9 out of last 10,we are the community that cares its for the greater good!!!!!

thought played ok, Gouffran works hard but u know nothing will happen when he has the ball. Pardew has now lost 8 of the last 9 in premier league

if this commentator mentions saints height advantage again im guna smash the place up

This is all well and good in theory, but it's based on a very lazy portrayal of Hatem being lazy (which is itself exceptionally ironic). For example, we have all this criticism of Hatem being selfish, lazy, not willing to put a shift in, not a team player, etc etc, yet quite recently when thrown back into the team randomly, Ben Arfa spent the entire first half against Southampton in his own half defending at every opportunity and ensuring Shaw barely got a sniff in the 45 minutes he was on the pitch. Yet he still got taken off at half time because Southampton had ripped us apart with their superior coached football (albeit with a 1-0 scoreline only irrc), and the criticisms of Hatem's "laziness" were still bandied about. He did everything Pardew wanted him to do, everything Ben Arfa supposedly doesn't do (according to his critics), and it still wasn't enough to stop him being the fall guy as Southampton showed exactly how football should be played and coached (something Pardew can't do). Not only that, but Hatem in that Southampton first half was about as extreme a defensive winger as you can get. The point here shouldn't be lost - wingers should not be playing like that. I feel like we're living in an insane world where everything is twisted and we have wingers being scolded for not running all the way to the fullback slots when the team loses the ball. Furthermore, this "lazy, doesn't track back" argument is utter nonsense imo, and based on sheer exaggeration of something all players (especially talented ones) do. David Silva, Juan Mata, Eden Hazard, even Adam Llalana - Ben Arfa tracks back far more than they do (the big difference with them I would argue isn't that they're better players, but that when they don't track back it doesn't frequently result in a goal for the opposition because their teams aren't as utterly s*** at defending as we are). If anything, under Pardew Hatem has spent far too much pitch time defending near his fullback when he should have been further up the pitch trying to cause damage. Maybe the correct criticism should be that Hatem is really weak in the tackle and so he sometimes lets his man go past him whilst he's easily brushed aside, but then that's an obviously harsh criticism to make given that he's an attacking winger. That half-time substitution when we were 1-0 down still makes my head hurt, and somehow Ben Arfa gets blamed for that shitshow when it finishes 3-0. Agreed that he barely ventured out of our half that game, what more can you ask from him defensively? I was at that game it finished 4-0,was when my patience finally snapped with Pardew he was tracking back as much as possible mbiwa was having a bit of a mare behind him but he was being played out of position and not Hatems fault, we were 1-0 down and needed a goal and he took him off. It was a perfect example of Pardew thinking we playing fucking shite here if I take hba off they will think it was because of him, im a genius ( your not your a cunt)

nice finish, good play by obertan

I fucking hope not we need to change the words of that as its decent at away games to what I dunno

we would have half the team being booed on then

I mean he shudnt be no where near the pitch when we have ben arfa but dnt like seeing anyone being booed on just because there a bit shite and lack confindence

im glad obertan didn't get booed on,been our best player pre season

I can hear singing at home wtf going on

excellent work

Pardew molly coddled the guy and was rewarded with nothing in return! I mean what the actual fuck is Stan talking about,a twat of the highest order!!!He was scapegoated at every available opportunity and when on bench chucked on with 10 mins to go expecting to get him out the shite which he did against Palace. Im almost glad he wont be in the squad now whos Pardew going to blame when hes seen for the clueless cretin he is.

Guessing that they'll try to tie it in with flogging the second half as Xmas presents? Not that it matters anyway, won't be getting one for a while yet. Out of interest, what's ur criteria for going back, Pardew gone, Ashley gone? or Pardew gone a decent manager installed and Ashley showing more ambition?