Dont use that as an excuse though? McClaren mismanaged every player that season. Thauvin went back to france played extremely well and called up to the national side. In reference to Gini we used him advanced and he scored 11 goals very good return, I'd agree he's doing a job at Liverpool, but it's nothing major or anything to do with how well he's suddenly been managed, he was a good player to start with, and he joined a very good side, Klopp has used him where he sees useful for Liverpool.
I don't think its mismanaged etc like you say, I just dont think we're the right club for him (Joelinton), sometimes that's just the way it is.
Wijnaldum is a very good example actually, he was getting pelters on here, then he joined a club in the same league and has won the title and the European cup. Now obviously Joelinton isn't in the same league as Gini, but we do have some fans with an ugly attitude towards certain players and they are usually of a certain type.
Yes but in fairness, those fans dont actually hate Joelinton or want him to fail, they just get annoyed if he's selected as it's like playing with 10 men.
Why would anyone be pleased about that? But equally I blame Bruce for selecting him consistently, but I'm of the opinion it was forced last season perhaps from above, and we may see less of Joelinton this season.
Personally I dont have an issue with the player, but given we had a fully fit squad to choose each week he would never make my starting line up because there are better players than him already here.