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Get Shelvey on and have him and Merino or at least one of the two hopefully open the game up a bit in the second. We really need maximum points here.

To get his full potential you would need to make someone like him a captain. As silly as it sounds and nobody would agree, he would benefit from being a leader. Hes the kind of player who needs an arm around him now and then, but would feel immensely important and loved if he had a big role to play. Trouble is somewhere someone might trust a lad like him with this responsibility, but Rafa would never. He's captained us a few times under Rafa iirc and anyway there is nothing to back up anything you just said Its not that I was dealing in facts, just my opinion, and I thought he had been given the band in the championship. But not just for one or two games where he knows he will be handing it back.

To get his full potential you would need to make someone like him a captain. As silly as it sounds and nobody would agree, he would benefit from being a leader. Hes the kind of player who needs an arm around him now and then, but would feel immensely important and loved if he had a big role to play. Trouble is somewhere someone might trust a lad like him with this responsibility, but Rafa would never.

Am I reading it right, hes taking the piss that City or Pep cant complain how sides set up against a side that can just buy the league and walk all over sides, if we or Rafa are to get any sort of results against such sides. He's certainly not talking about Labours intrrest in funding grassroots football.

As much as merino looks classy at times, hes a lazy fucker who doesnt follow players and in two of our defeats on our terrible run was somewhat at fault for goals shipped. These were games Shelvey spent on the bench. Personally I think a lot has to do with Rafa not being keen on him(Shelvey) a bit like the Mitrovic situation and fans just jumping on board the hate train. I dont think its possible to judge who the better player out of him and Merino are, its still very new for Merino, he could end up one of those that look good to start then go backwards. For me Perez looked a prospect when he came here even under a shithouse like Pardew, yet hes gone to shit. Once of Spurs and Barcelona's admiring now a none entity. Id break someones hand off if they came in for Perez.

Why the fuck would anyone buy slimani? Just loan a better striker that cant get in a top side, Batshuayi or someone, there must be tons of strikers that cant get in tops sides itching to prove themselves. Its better for us if its a player who has a point to prove.

David Batty Ruel Fox Andy Cole Keith Gillespie Warren Barton ?

Joey Barton?

I cant argue, that is true. But I watched Stoke City dominate Man City a couple of seasons ago, and they just went for it. That City side apart from KDB last night was weaker than ive seen. Especially throwing fernandinho into the back four. Pep was laughing inside fully aware we had bottled it.

I don't really see how you don't get the goal difference excuse. If we lose 1-0 there as well we'd have already done better than most teams in the division and that's across 2 games and not just 1. I. E. If we lose 1-0 again which is probably unlikely we will be at -2 rather than the -3/4 which some teams have suffered from one game. Goal difference is worth a point and could potentially be worth 1 or 2 places. So how can that not be identified as a good reason for how we played? I said I only saw the benefit of what we were trying to do in the second half and only after conceding. However as pointed out and having to repeat posts, what is so great about it if they stick 7 past us in a few weeks and we have a shite goal difference. Its all hypothetical but to keep the argument its ok to lose 1 nil and not 3 nil because its less then suffer heavier defeats further down makes no difference if other sides gain advantage around you. The truth is we should be looking to at least try and get points by any means not look for how we can go about not letting in a bag full. We only saw the game plan come into effect later on in the second half. The first 35 minutes were a shambles. I cant agree with anyone accepting it was ok to play in that manner. It also bothers me theres some collective brain washing that goes on in here, where you get pulled up relentlessly for going against the grain or popular opinion. Almost like everyone is on HTTs case until he concedes its a master stroke to lose 1 nil to man city. He didnt like what he witnessed in the first half. Neither did I or quite a few others. Needless to say its done with and we need to move on to the next game. It was the lack of quality that was the issue though not the tactics deployed. If we make the ball stick up top and don't give them possession back time after time then the pressure wouldn't have been so relentless. We could have snatched it almost as much as they could have battered us and if we gained a point that'd be one more than about 17 other teams in the division. Instead, we got the next best thing which was a narrow defeat, which is better than like 15 teams in the division. I see your point that we could have went for it and reverted to that once they scored. But we did that at Man United and Chelsea and look what happened. To me in fairness to all arguments and what Benitez was trying to do looked like he was emulating the Liverpool result. But we were far more diciplined in that game and had a few chances. We did what we set out to do and Liverpool had hardly any space to exploit. Last night that was not the case, Ederson could have played sweeper at times.

I don't really see how you don't get the goal difference excuse. If we lose 1-0 there as well we'd have already done better than most teams in the division and that's across 2 games and not just 1. I. E. If we lose 1-0 again which is probably unlikely we will be at -2 rather than the -3/4 which some teams have suffered from one game. Goal difference is worth a point and could potentially be worth 1 or 2 places. So how can that not be identified as a good reason for how we played? I said I only saw the benefit of what we were trying to do in the second half and only after conceding. However as pointed out and having to repeat posts, what is so great about it if they stick 7 past us in a few weeks and we have a shite goal difference. Its all hypothetical but to keep the argument its ok to lose 1 nil and not 3 nil because its less then suffer heavier defeats further down makes no difference if other sides gain advantage around you. The truth is we should be looking to at least try and get points by any means not look for how we can go about not letting in a bag full. We only saw the game plan come into effect later on in the second half. The first 35 minutes were a shambles. I cant agree with anyone accepting it was ok to play in that manner. It also bothers me theres some collective brain washing that goes on in here, where you get pulled up relentlessly for going against the grain or popular opinion. Almost like everyone is on HTTs case until he concedes its a master stroke to lose 1 nil to man city. He didnt like what he witnessed in the first half. Neither did I or quite a few others. Needless to say its done with and we need to move on to the next game.

I dont really see the whole goal difference excuse, obviously its acceptable given it was only 1 goal conceded. But when we go to play them in 3 weeks or so, if they thrash us 6 or 7 which could potentially happen then it hasnt really made much difference. As long as the players have a go I suppose that matters mostly to paying fans,it is true the first half was shit with all the soft arse excuses. However we did look more like a side who were holding off a hiding and countering much better in the second half.

11 men behind the ball,camped in our own 18 yard box, lets show these lot what we are about.

f*** off would you rather us lose 10-0 trying. That could send us down. Fuck off, I would, because to me playing football is about competing. I can accept any loss by any margin if we try, but we have not tried at all. It was embarrassing, a non league side wouldn’t sit 11 men behind the ball and literally have a handful of touches on the ball. We are Newcastle United at home and we should never ever play this way regardless of who we are playing or how shit we are. They are a great team, but they are not 11 tucking superman’s. We are basically forefeiting the game and that’s not on. And before anyone starts I accept how great they are, how shit they are and there is no one as big a fan of Rafa as me, but I will never accept this. This isn’t football, this is fucking surrender. What was the flag the other week, Newcastle United will never be defeated? Ha, fucking mockery of that particular banner. Your spot on. Teams already bottling facing City before they have even tried. This game does not define our season. Benitez should have told them nothing hinders on this result and to go and show what they can do. Fucking embarrassing from the guy.

12m to WBA and he keeps them up

A few prediction line ups have KDB not starting and Yaya Toure in. I suppose thats a slight helping hand in us not getting completely destroyed.

He has been much better in the prem than champo

Motd comments ???

Only seen the motd highlights. Appalling pass for the goal we conceded. Was he actually meant to take the free kick, or did he just take it from Ritchie? Either way he redeemed himself.

For me personally thats too bigger risk with him and being in a relegation battle. Relying on him not getting injured is not worth the risk. We will need goals to get us out of the shit for sure, but would this lad deliver and stay fit? Huge gamble in my eyes. Going to be the same problem with Ings though, which is our other apparent striking target. I doubt either are serious targets but more so rumours. Both present huge risk imo. I personally hope Rafa will have some surprises up his sleeve. Nobody media wise had a clue about our loan for Merino until it was near enough agreed.

For me personally thats too bigger risk with him and being in a relegation battle. Relying on him not getting injured is not worth the risk. We will need goals to get us out of the shit for sure, but would this lad deliver and stay fit? Huge gamble in my eyes.

Does this mean we missed the top target then(Shaw), and as usual went for next down the list or further down.

Loan Batshuayi Loan Shaw Buy Walcott Buy goalkeeper Get that Defensive Midfielder from Torino. In January though, im probably dreaming.

So you are just having a guess this could be announced

He gets the block on a shot from Sanchez. Then decides to watch the ball in his own 18yd box. While Ozil is deciding how hes going to score.