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Why don't the top clubs buy strikers for £1.5m then? It would seem a bit daft to waste £50m on an expensive prima donna when you could by 15 players for that. Because they can afford to, so it doesnt matter. The cost of the market simply isnt the argument. ( they could spunk millions on a top striker with no return, ala Carroll, Bony, Torres when at Chelsea. Basing a cost on how many goals a striker will return is an unkown unless they are obvious pedigree and reputation, ie international players cost more we know that. Its the pretending a 20m striker has an average goal ratio based on his price thats a laugh.

Rafa mentioned the cost of particular players which we couldn't compete to purchase due to their transfer fees and wages which other teams like Huddersfield and Brighton were willing to pay. This seems to have started this off. So does that mean those players we couldnt compete to sign that they did will go on to hit 15 - 20 goals. Its pure shit.

Why have people started basing how many goals a striker can guarantee on 5m 10m 20m etc being like between 5-10 goals in the premier league. Didn't mitro get 9 in his debut prem season and he was shite and didnt play a full season. Its all utter bollox. A cheap investment could do equally as well as a 60m striker, depending on hitting form and simply adjusting to changes quickly or pure luck etc etc. This price to goals thing is a load of shit for me. Obviously Aguero etc you would expect to be good given his reputation. But nobody would have expected Keane to be the striker he is to start with. Everyone has to start somewhere. Im sure Vardy was like 1.5m from Fleetwood.

Wasn't one of Joselu goals that freak one that actually was Matips goal.

Rotated straight out the exit door where the key rotates locking him out - the key then melted down so it can never be unlocked. fucks sake. To the point.

Roy Hodgson - West Brom.David Moyes - Everton.Sam Allardyce - Crystal Palace. Alan Pardew - West Ham ?Shuffle? Roy Hodgson - Crystal Palace. David Moyes - West Ham. Sam Allardyce - Everton. Alan Pardew - West Brom.

Best buddies with Jamaal, I could imagine Lacelles probably saying to him go ask to play in the reserves get fit and show your committed and the gaffer will pick you.

Remind him about Joselu then

Based on that game, really? Im probably not using that game as a whole. But he can defend, and he did whip a superb ball in that Joselu flicked away from Ritchie coming in, won a few battles and restricted phillips to not too much. Really though why ask, Manquillo is awful.

You cant leave Shelvey out of the team again, he looked our best player when he came on. Chancel was miles better at left back than Manquillo. And Mitro is much better than Joselu. The second half side with subs on was better, but probably Murphy not Aarons.

Remember stick together, support the team. For fucks sake!Utter shite.

Im beginning to wonder if Rafa is being defiant now, and deliberately using Joselu because the club chose to bring him in instead of getting the Tammy deal done. Like an up yours! And hes now saying that type of thing in the press.

So if it comes down to chances not taken and we get a few and its Joselu missing them, where does everyone fair on Rafa continuing to give him game time?

Ahem, Manquillo!

Seems the message over and over was try and not complain and back what we have in players that are here. Its difficult to watch some players ie Joselu and Manquillo though and just keep saying to yourself, Ah its ok it is what it is ?

Thats common sense ^^^^^ do we do common sense?

Get ready for the usual. Starts picking points up and everyone is happy,wba fans calling all us before them idiots. Then second phase the wheels fall off and he walks away from the shit before relegation.

No one on here has (I hope), but there's a handful of relentless mongs out there on social media. State of them. Ah right. Thought some of os were being labelled just for quizzing the transfer business. No bother. The guy on twitter is just being a typical child.

Nobodys turned on Rafa. No need to start little alliances up.

Joselu will be on £40k and Murphy on half that imo. £60k would get you somewhere close to a decent striker, especially if we sold Gayle or Mitro on the back of it. Rafa didn't get to choose which of his targets to get, it's really not that hard to grasp that he didn't have that choice. So he doesn’t have control over transfers? He literally said time and and time again, all summer long that they had targets and the club was tasked with delivering them. He then said Ashley didnt keep his word over what they had agreed. How could he have made it any clearer? I think we got caught out on Abraham. I know Rafa was double crossed, but fucking hell have something else ready in the pipe line. We paniced with Joselu. << theres no way he was our next best option. That's a fair comment. But then again, if your first choice is literally a free transfer (albeit with a sizeable loan fee) and you've already done all the groundwork behind the scenes to get him here why would you possibly believe it wouldn't be done? We'll never know if we'd be any better off but we're not on about missing out on a top class striker here, and it's the same with the goalkeeper he wanted. Just good, solid upgrades on what we had with a view to staying up and building from there. And they still fucked it up. Absolutely ridiculous. Given the fact he went down a division from a top club and scored over 20 goals the interest would have been widespread. He had the choice. I believe it was Rafa who went there to convince him, but you just dont know how many of his parent clubs colleagues would have been texting him against coming here, there were many senior players at chelsea who had it in for Rafa. Rafas biggest mistake was having any trust in Charnley and all the yes men who pretend to get stuff done behind the scenes ultimately he doesn't sign players outright or Tammy Abraham would have been here this season. He talks of a good relationship with Charnley on occasions. Just seems they let him down with little back up options. Basically we shouldn't have laid all our eggs in one basket with Tammy.

Mitro Murphy. Merino. Ritchie Shelvey Mbemba Gamez. Clark. Lejuene. Yedlin Elliott Give Chancel a chance as a holding midfielder with shelvey. And push up Merino

Joselu will be on £40k and Murphy on half that imo. £60k would get you somewhere close to a decent striker, especially if we sold Gayle or Mitro on the back of it. Rafa didn't get to choose which of his targets to get, it's really not that hard to grasp that he didn't have that choice. So he doesn’t have control over transfers? He literally said time and and time again, all summer long that they had targets and the club was tasked with delivering them. He then said Ashley didnt keep his word over what they had agreed. How could he have made it any clearer? I think we got caught out on Abraham. I know Rafa was double crossed, but fucking hell have something else ready in the pipe line. We paniced with Joselu. << theres no way he was our next best option.

You could have saved 5m on Joselu and kept Murphy, who was probably better. We flogged plenty of players,have plenty on loan and released and had many leave for free,surley we made a few quid. Was the cash from promotion not that much? How the fuck is a club with gates 2 times plus, not generating enough to compete with Brighton and Huddersfield.

It does get a tad repetitive people claiming any inside info on goings on, and repeat of this it takes time to dot the I cross the T's, etc etc.

Same posts different posters adding their literature.